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Leocrubellatti · Jan 14, 2013

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Oh, so having one game mechanic that's present in other games makes the whole game unoriginal? Well then, i guess you should call all the games that have a "walk" mechanic unoriginal as well.
The same mechanic in a different context/with a different twist might make all the difference. Just because you "wouldn't like it if it were a common thing" doesn't mean it wouldn't fit well in the game(it's an action game after all). Wall jump is just one of many mechanics common in action games. Just as code-puzzles are a common thing in adventure/point-and-click games. It's just one of many mechanics that can be used. For example another mechanic in action games you can use is double jump. In adventure/point-and-click games it might be memory puzzles. Both are part of the game, and yet just because a game has them we don't call it "unoriginal". The thing that makes games original is how and in what context they are used/executed. In this case, the mechanic itself is the important thing. Should it be had from the start? Or perhaps it should be a mid-game mechanic? Should it have tiers? It all depends on the world's, through which you need to navigate, design and difficulty. In the case of Starbound you will have jetpacks late game(from what i've heard) which means wall jump needs to be an early-mid game mechanic if it's implemented.
Also, about it being "too common". Not everything must be obtained through exploration/battles. You have the jump ability from the start, right? Well, maybe you want to earn that through exploration, because it's too common? My point is - you can have certain abilities from the start, but they can be improved through equipment. So they might make wall jump something you have at the very start. They might make it obtainable through equipment. You might have wall jump from the start, and be able to upgrade it later. There might be no wall jump at all.
Besides that, every good game is original in it's own way, otherwise it doesn't rise much and is soon forgotten. Why do you think Call of Duty series are being mocked so much?

Now, specific creatures from the stories of a certain author is something else. You will walk through the world and keep seeing the creatures you read about in those books. In the books of one specific author. Then it will no longer be a game with it's own separate story and everything, but will rather be a game based on that book. Having one creature as a reference is ok. Having more is something else entirely. Have you seen all the people suggesting pokemon stuff to be added to starbound yet? Imagine if that was added. You would walk through the world of starbound and keep meeting pokemon. What would that make you think? "Bah, another pokemon game." Is what I would think just before deleting it. "Feedback" is one thing, suggesting to copy some other game/story/etc. you like is another. Starbound is not one of those stories/games. It's a different game in it's own right. It's not supposed to copy something else. I understand you like those things, and you think they would fit great, but the same way I think about Fable/Black and White, and other people think about Pokemon, or about Transformers or any other thing.
So you see, there's a giant difference. In short - mechanics/programming are like the bones of the game. Creature names, graphics, story, visuals and etc. are the face. Most humans have very similar bone structure. And yet each one looks different because of their features. The same thing with games. Most games of the same genre have similar mechanics. What makes them original and different are the story/visuals/etc. depending on the game.
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I think this game has great potential, and I'm trying to provide feedback. The only thing you've done so far was bash me because of my opinion. It's my opinion and I have the freedom to express it. There is no need to bash it so hard. Our opinions are different and I respect yours. Respect mine please. Mocking what I think that would fit and what I think that wouldn't fit the game just shows how useful or helpful you are being to me. (not) Until you respect my opinion, I'll not reply to you any longer. I was just excited because of the love craft thing because of a picture that "Off Topic: Tiy had of terraria on his twitter, showing Cthulhu". Forgive me if that caused negative impacts. I didn't meant to do that by any means. I'll drop it.

Dragohole · Jan 14, 2013

Someone else have doubts on the "pollution" suggestion? It was a pain in the **** in Terraria. I think that most of the people are not "in" that kind of stuff. It requires a lot of macromanaging, and personally I was not able to handle it, my world gone to trash xD That's an option for hardcore gamers, but if it will be implemented, make sure that it will be the enable\side thing. Ticked the box - get it. You didnt? All for your pleasure.

Cheers~

Dragohole

Tea Mate · Jan 14, 2013

Leocrubellatti said: ↑

I think this game has great potential, and I'm trying to provide feedback. The only thing you've done so far was bash me because of my opinion. It's my opinion and I have the freedom to express it. There is no need to bash it so hard. Our opinions are different and I respect yours. Respect mine please. Mocking what I think that would fit and what I think that wouldn't fit the game just shows how useful or helpful you are being to me. (not) Until you respect my opinion, I'll not reply to you any longer. I was just excited because of the love craft thing because of a picture that "Off Topic: Tiy had of terraria on his twitter, showing Cthulhu". Forgive me if that caused negative impacts. I didn't meant to do that by any means. I'll drop it.
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You gave a suggestion to copy a book. It was my duty as a user to show you why something like that is wrong. I did not "bash" you. I didn't use curses or anything. Not even much feeling, perhaps excluding a bit of sarcasm(but you'll have to forgive me for that, because i don't really think it's offensive and it's just my style of writing to use sarcasm. Also, it helps me illustrate my point). Also, note that I respect the author you mentioned, though I can't pretend to understand him. If giving counter-arguments to someone is considered "bashing" them, then you are right. I do respect your opinion, but you should not get hurt just because someone disagrees with you as well. In this case it's a matter of you seeing too narrow(which is understandable, because we can't take all the factors into our mind). Adding a cameo of sorts or some reference to certain things is nothing bad, and yet adding a lot of references to something is not good. I just gave "pokemon" as an example of one of the other things more than one person suggested. You like Lovercraft, thus you will be unable to see why adding monsters from his books is wrong. That's why I gave you the example of people wanting to add pokemon things. Just to illustrate my point. I'll re-read my post, but I can't remember anything offensive, so please, quote what you found offensive, and I'll try to avoid saying things like that in the future. It is not my goal or intent to offend.

Leocrubellatti · Jan 15, 2013

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You gave a suggestion to copy a book. It was my duty as a user to show you why something like that is wrong. I did not "bash" you. I didn't use curses or anything. Not even much feeling, perhaps excluding a bit of sarcasm(but you'll have to forgive me for that, because i don't really think it's offensive and it's just my style of writing to use sarcasm. Also, it helps me illustrate my point). Also, note that I respect the author you mentioned, though I can't pretend to understand him. If giving counter-arguments to someone is considered "bashing" them, then you are right. I do respect your opinion, but you should not get hurt just because someone disagrees with you as well. In this case it's a matter of you seeing too narrow(which is understandable, because we can't take all the factors into our mind). Adding a cameo of sorts or some reference to certain things is nothing bad, and yet adding a lot of references to something is not good. I just gave "pokemon" as an example of one of the other things more than one person suggested. You like Lovercraft, thus you will be unable to see why adding monsters from his books is wrong. That's why I gave you the example of people wanting to add pokemon things. Just to illustrate my point. I'll re-read my post, but I can't remember anything offensive, so please, quote what you found offensive, and I'll try to avoid saying things like that in the future. It is not my goal or intent to offend.
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You know what? It was amazing to debate with you. Well done sir. Now let's be friends.

Tea Mate · Jan 15, 2013

Leocrubellatti said: ↑

You know what? It was amazing to debate with you. Well done sir. Now let's be friends.
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I see you are new here, so I'll just clarify something - most people are much more friendly than I am, and the community here is great in general, so don't let my negative answer to your suggestion discourage you. You can post whatever ideas you like and who knows? Perhaps after reading them the devs might find them fitting. You might suggest a "Horror biome" or a "Cold space planet" or a "Space Outcast Creature planet" in which some of the lovecrafian monster might fit. It is all up to you to think how this could work. But if you make suggestions in the future, you should create a new thread for them(a new thread for each suggestion in the appropriate sub-forum). Here( http://community.playstarbound.com/index.php?forums/suggestions/ ) you can see there are sub-forums for mechanics suggestions, NPC/creature suggestions and etc.
This thread is actually simply the (incomplete) list of what was suggested, not the thread for making suggestions themselves. In truth, it should probably be locked since people get confused and keep posting suggestions in here.

wataru · Jan 21, 2013

Hello,
How about adding "prebuilt structures" (aka personal "blue prints") to the list in the first post?

Main idea is to somehow store plans of player built structures ans allowing more fast and easy way to reproduce them later (given you have enough resources)

There are several topics about that idea with some variations:
http://community.playstarbound.com/index.php?threads/blue-prints.7026/
http://community.playstarbound.com/...mbling-and-condesing-konstructor-smaack.7088/
http://community.playstarbound.com/index.php?threads/auto-building.3667/#post-59701
And there were more topics on such ideas, I could not find them now.

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