September 16th - Space Train!

Discussion in 'Dev Blog' started by Necotho, Sep 16, 2014.

  1. Unclever title

    Unclever title Cosmic Narwhal

    Hello, Neco! I like the look of the train upgrades, myself.

    Coincidentally, I recently took a screenshot of my train (no upgrades or repairs yet) cause I somehow stumbled on something that looked pretty good to me.

    And all I was really doing was just emptying my inventory of stuff I picked up on the first planet.

    [​IMG]

    Still need a card table or something to fit 'twixt those folding chairs though.
     
  2. DarthTrethon

    DarthTrethon Spaceman Spiff

    Well a train is built to function on rails and seeing as there are no rails in space, what's the use of sticking to a train's shape? Beyond that, who's not going to use mods to either build their own ship or get a different one? I really can't get behind the space train concept.
     
  3. Sh0elace

    Sh0elace Phantasmal Quasar

    Awesome! It would be cool if it let out steam as it travelled even though it wouldn't make sense.:cookie:
     
  4. Draken09

    Draken09 Black Hole Surfer

    Shoot. Now I need to be a Novakid.
     
  5. Adgymous

    Adgymous Poptop Tamer

    Wow. Um. I mean no offense when I say this is not the most aesthetically pleasing thing I've ever seen. Can you give it more horizontal than vertical space, please? I was hyped for Novakid but now I'm not so sure.
     
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  6. Shakar

    Shakar Phantasmal Quasar

    I agree with you, I thought we were to fly trains, not buildings :D
     
  7. The | Suit

    The | Suit Agent S. Forum Moderator

    I am not a huge fan either - though you can't see the whole picture. It really just looks like the base image + smoke stacks.
    Train carts + containers generally come in different shapes. Not to mention the issue of long distance walking in a horizontal direction to create equal volume as compared to other species space ships.


    [​IMG]


    The starcraft Battleship might be a good concept.
    Starting off with the head - then the neck in 3 pieces [ cargo containers ] then the last 3 breaking up into a massive engine \ cargo complex. [ Imagine it without the wings ]

    [​IMG]


    To give a better idea
    [​IMG]

    The front is the "Engine"
    The next 2 blocks would be container block extensions.
    The last 4 upgrades is the back major compartment. Where it starts off as the bottom blocks and grows vertically.
    This removes 2 issues.
    1. It is more compact so less travel time.
    2. Personally I think this gives the perfect mix of sci-fi and trains.
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2014
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  8. RainDreamer

    RainDreamer Existential Complex

    All aboard the galaxy railway~
     
  9. did anyone else misread the name as necro or was that just me?
     
  10. shuruga

    shuruga Void-Bound Voyager

    Trains seem great, keep the good job.
     
  11. Helix1111

    Helix1111 Big Damn Hero

    kinda disappointed. i think a modder made a better train
     
  12. Kawa

    Kawa Tiy's Beard

    Today's diffs: mostly novakid weapons and crafting them.
    Code:
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  13. Just a normal avian

    Just a normal avian Aquatic Astronaut

    wow, good idea
     
  14. ethantheobscene

    ethantheobscene Aquatic Astronaut

    If only there were some space rails to tie a damsel to.
     
  15. Shaku Arai

    Shaku Arai Void-Bound Voyager

    For me at least having various heights on the train cars makes total sense. In space there are no tunnels or obstructions that would dictate the cars need to be of a lower more uniform profile. (There is no drag in space either so the shape is not relevant to its performance either)
     
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  16. Astasia

    Astasia Pangalactic Porcupine

    I can see why they'd add some vertical expansion to it. If it was all horizontal then running from one end to the other would take a really long time and that would cause some/many/justme to never do anything with the back cars. I wouldn't want to spend a full minute running to my storage area.

    My only issue with it is the colors, I'd prefer something less rainbow, like a consistent dark grey with some gold trim or whatever, but that's easy enough to mod.
     
  17. Hrexandro

    Hrexandro Subatomic Cosmonaut

    I'm baffled as to why they're even working on the Novakids already. They were supposed to be one of the closing additions and the game itself is still so far from being completed.
     
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  18. Helix1111

    Helix1111 Big Damn Hero

    right? what happened to the building and farming progression they were talking about..
     
  19. Kawa

    Kawa Tiy's Beard

    Again, plans change. Show me the stone the plan is supposedly set in.
     
  20. HyperSpace Princess Elly

    HyperSpace Princess Elly Phantasmal Quasar

    Adding a race is light on programming and heavy on art. So instead of letting the artists sit around and do nothing, they tackled one of the art-heaviest aspects on starbound still left to do, Novakids.

    There's not just armor and ship sprites needed. NPC's, blocks for dungeons, towns, decoration blocks, object sprites, weapons, outpost container shops, supporting art such as intro cinematics. Also they don't wanna give away the entire game in blogposts, but they're not slacking off at all, otherwise Kawas diff posts wouldn't be so big they make the post editor unusable.

    As far as the space train goes, I think the cars should be more individualized instead of being all copy and paste. I don't mind it too much, but right now it could be a lot less repetitive.
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2014
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