Important BETA RELEASE DISCUSSION - DECEMBER 4TH (*ALL* beta discussion goes here. Other threads deleted)

No. Now it ends.

 

i cant beleve the games coming out in a week,

its going to be SO AWESOME

 

No. Not even a little bit. There has been very little communication and transparency where and when it was needed. I can go into detail if i must, but it's been said before. A lot.

Everyone who did. And must say i am pretty pissed with how things have progressed. I don't know where most of the money went (as they did not need over a million to work on it full time) but it was not used to hire programmers to speed it up. This late? No, it won't help. But back when preorders started? Yeah, hire programmers, not artists. Look on the CF site where it shows the team, there are 2-4 programmers and like 8 artists or more. Something tells me they could have spent that a bit better.

Not a chance. In fact it's gated me from pre-purchasing any other games ever again. And even purchasing any games from CF to be honest. I'll be taking each game that comes out on it's own, not crucifying it for being published by CF, but it's certainly not doing them any favors. And it's DEFINITELY making certain they get no preorders.

To say this whole situation could have been handled better is probably the largest understatement i've ever made. Ever.

 

such optimism
hold on to your butts
december 4th (yay)

 

A reminder that you can't post a casual thought about a release as a dev without everyone treating it as fact.

I'd love for the 4th too but he said probably so we'll see.

 

I don't wanna be in this thread if it doesn't come out December 4th. I really don't

 

I do, and i'll have my popcorn ready :whistle:

 

well he sead propley witch means he has it set for the 4th,

unless hes lying =p

 

You can't post it casually when the tension is this high. He knows the implications.

 

Or at least, one would certainly hope he does.

 

In reality their is no tension it's just the usual for any game release especially when the developers talked about the game before they were ready too.

 

Good point. He could be drunk. This is definitely something I would drunkenly do. That's why I have currently developed 0 games.

 

I'm sure it's causing a bit more nervousness than it would with a larger, established company that did the same.

 

I guess you're right.

 

While one can hope.. Tiy is the one who said soon about many things.
Which.. have not occurred anytime reasonable soon.

At this point they really couldn't dig themselves a deeper customer relations hole with professional mining equipment.

 

sure

 

More delays =/= more time in development. Sometimes, even with delays the game still isn't truly finished after 'release'. Which means that despite the delays, it still potentially could've benefited from more time. Assuming the developers weren't squandering the time they were getting, that is...

Also, time is relative to the project, and the person working on it. For example, if I ask a couple of painters of otherwise-equal skill about making a portrait under certain specifications, one may tell me he'll need a week, while another may say three days. If I ask the first painter to complete the portrait in three days, can I really expect the same level of quality as if they had the full week to do it? Of course not. So, going from this:
a) Everyone has a different workrate. It's unreasonable to ask someone to meet the time standards of someone else.
b) Because of the above, estimates are difficult to formulate without any prior experience. People have no way of knowing how long something will take until they've already done it themselves.
c) Also because of the above, saying that something is taking "too long" is an erroneous assumption that often fails to account for the people or the work involved. One could say so if it took longer than it would take most people, however.

I thought the RROD fiasco was going to be the end of Microsoft's gaming department too for a while, but all it took was for them to own up to their mistakes and treat their customers right, and suddenly everyone had forgotten. Okay, not everyone, but still, they held their own for the next five-ish years, right?

Likewise, I think missing that date would be a pretty big deal for a lot of people, yes. But it would hardly be the worst delay ever seen, you know? It's still well into the realm of fixable issues, as long as they take steps to address the situation and all.

Disclaimer: I'm also in the camp that doubts this would ever happen anyway, so yeah...

I was wondering how this got so many likes, then I saw the link and was like "...Oh *hits like button*"

 

I really don't want to be that guy, but if they recanted official release dates, how far can we trust something said in passing?

We're all thinking it...

On that note however: CALLED IT, FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER.

Of course, this is following several failed predictions, but dang do I feel good.

Who duh man? Wulpher duh man.

...Skarn can be the man too.

Also Xander. If he plays nice.

Edit) And Hazmat. Hazmat can be the man as well.