Outdated Temperature Returns [UG] v0.5.1 ( Hot Fix )

To be honest, I dont know why they outright moved it to begin with. With coding for things like that you could always deactivate it and kinda push it off onto its own but keep it in the assets so you dont have to readd it later if/when you find use for it. Thats just my opinion though and im amature at best for coding so there might be issues with doing that. Hope you find a work around or its readded!

 

Say, about the problem with having to force players to stand in front of objects to get warmed up or cooled down, have you tried adding/modifying an object's damage or status effect polygon, so that it extends far from the object itself, or causing the object to constantly emit stationary projectiles that warm up or cool down the player on contact?

 

well show far a like the if that helps?v.05 just slows me down i guess its a bug?well so far its a very good concept, plz continue the great work

 

Excellent concept; I had been looking forward to Starbound's survival aspect only to find that by the time I got around to actually playing it, they'd removed a lot of the stuff I was interested in. Please don't take offense to any of the below; I didn't mean any, but my wording isn't always the greatest. Hope this wasn't too long, at this point, since I appear to have covered a lot of stuff.

Did you intend for the torch to allow overheating if the biome temperature change rate was low enough? Because from the code, that's exactly what it does. tempLimiter is only going to limit the lowest player temperature the torch can heat up and cooling is never going to happen at least from the current code. On the other hand, capping heating isn't exactly something I consider the best design philosophy; if there's more than one heating object, it's still not going to change max temperature and I really feel like it should. It's just an opinion, though. Comments on the part of the code I was indicating are below.

if self.temperatureLimit < 0 then

if status.resource("temperature") <= self.temperatureLimit then --Never going to happen; temperature is never going to be negative as far as I can tell.

status.modifyResource("temperature", self.temperatureMod * dt)​

else return
end​

else

if status.resource("temperature") >= math.abs(self.temperatureLimit) then --Not going to change signs; is going to be always positive and delimit the bottom.

status.modifyResource("temperature", self.temperatureMod * dt)​

else return
end​

end

There's a second problem, and that's with the side effects of heat/cold. The side effects cause the player to jump far too many blocks into the air in the case of heating. I did the math, and the modifier would, worst case scenario and the temperature was maintained at just above a 0.75 of max, grow unbounded. And that's perfectly possible with a single torch on a garden planet. I also played the mod and entirely without attempting to make that happen, ended up jumping so many blocks that when I came down, the character was nearly killed. The other side is that the player can end up utterly immobilized under the effects of cold (not sure if that's intended, but if it is, that's fine, just want to point it out) and ground friction never returns to zero after the player has warmed back up.

Suggestions on how to fix that: Perhaps bound the modifiers somehow, or tie it completely to how much the player has overheated/frozen rather than the time they've spent overheated. Since there's a max and min to player temperature, that'd stop it from growing too high. I don't think the damage needs to be changed, but it could be. And the ground friction just needs to be reset to zero in the else statement.

Other suggestions that may help with the prior issue on rates and design: Perhaps it would be better to have the adjustment equation for the player temperature be something like: (biome_temperature - player_temperature) * biome_rate * armor_rate. This would bound the growth of temperature increase for heating objects without introducing the need for temperature limits - of course, we'd have to note that these objects would have to actually generate/remove heat rather than having heat. Having heat would require a one-time application of the effect. The higher the difference between temperatures, the faster the player returns to the biome temperature. It's what happens in real life as well.

Thanks for the mod, and hope you manage to complete it. Thumbs up!


EDIT: Amendment; friction set to 20. 0 still is sliding.

 

This is a prototype, i'm working

 

Shup ;d. Hopefully.

 

I found something weird here:
When i created a character (using the mod),i steped in the first planet,but then i saw some weird thing: the rain didn't stoped,and if stoped,it was for only 1-5 secs to restart
Is this a bug,or is just some natural thing from the planet?

 

(sorry if my english is bad,im german)
yes,and if i uninstall the mod,the rain go back normal again

 

When? Did you have any ETA?