Modding Discussion Avali 1.0 Reboot Discussion

Well, yeah, on like... an SB RP server.
Which usually go with their own lore.

 

I disagree with you, Avali were never meant to the entirely a starbound race, there is so much Avali lore that can’t be shown with starbounds huge limits. Ryuujin always had it where the Avali SB lore and the real Avali were always two different things.

 

I didn't clarify my statement; what I meant was that Avali in their current state are very dependent on Starbound. I'm not saying they're completely tied to it and can never leave Starbound, quite the opposite, but it has been the majority of the source of the race's popularity. Who wants to make an OC for a race that isn't playable in any games?

I agree that general Avali lore is different from their Starbound lore; I mean, it has been confirmed by Ryuujin as you said. That doesn't mean vanilla SB lore doesn't affect them, even if the community instates its own lore (as my main Discord RP server has done). Anybody playing Starbound with/as an avali, aka a lot of people, will have to conform to the assets of the game, which entails the lore to an extent. There is stuff that just can't be ignored.

 

What is everybody's standing on magic in the Starbound universe? I tend to be quite lenient with it, as evidenced by Jiro's dark mage combat setup. I say all you need is time and effort.

What do you guys think though, more something in line with super high tech which takes the appearance of magic? After all, it is just defined as science we don't understand yet; perhaps the only differences between depictions of magic in fiction is the nature of the "technology" used to channel it. That's the way Ryuu saw it, anyways: http://avalinexus.seraphimlabs.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=15

Honestly I might just turn this question into a whole thread of its own, I find it an intriguing topic.

 

Honestly, I don't really care weither or not there is magic in this sci-fi themed universe.

 

Ah, but I do. It may be an example of genre clash, but you know what I say? Why limit yourself in regards to ability, when you have a setting which holds the means of overcoming said limits?

 

I would say someone found a way to harnesses the elements, and uses them to create weapons. Someone was bound to do it eventually, though I haven't really messed with them yet. It's also been done before to an extent, so it isn't a new concept to me. (Shadowrun, the example I am somewhat familiar with, intrigues me)

In Shadowrun, it is literally magic returning to the world. In starbound, magic is only through wands and staffs. Until you can shoot lightning or heal someone with magic unaided, then I don't consider it as magic in the traditional sense.

 

Staves and wands are for pussies.

 

In more ways than one, for those of us with our minds in the gutter.

 

To keep this vaguely on topic, I wonder what the Avali think about "Magic"... the illuminate, not independent worlds.

 

Well the Illuminate probably dismisses magic as superstition due to the government's secular nature, but more traditional Illuminate individuals may still believe in the pre-malefactor Avali animistic religion; animism frequently involves magical practice, as with voodoo in west Africa.

Due to independent worlds avali essentially being able to do whatever the heck they want, magic practice would probably be a lot more common of a practice there.

Then there's Jiro, the Illuminate avali that features the mindset of an independent worlds avali or even an alien altogether. Largely due to the dangerously high amounts of non-Illuminate media he was raised with, he has developed a penchant for dark fantasy, the macabre, and the occult. His hobby of planet exploration often gives rise to him setting aside time to practice the dark arts, as well as fashioning the aforementioned black mage combat setup.

Heretic/Hexen fanboy 'vali, everybody.

That is a genius idea. How come I never thought of that before?

*takes off skirt, holding a wand in my other hand*

 

Let's keep it clean folks there's kids on this site

 

Like myself.


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Now I get that new packs of avali kits are put in a communal nursery and raised by the tribe, but WHO exactly, within the tribe, is responsible? I'm betting elders and volunteers.

Furthermore, for how long is the pack raised by external entities until they start off on their own? About the same time it takes them to mature? If so, I'm just assuming around the same amount of time it takes to raise human children.

 

Probably depends on the size of the community. Large, wealthy, organized tribes would probably have creche run by trained professionals. These people would be teachers and nannies and parents all in one (or with specialists for each profession within the same staff). There would be official oversight and standards to uphold, rather like our own school systems. Smaller, poorer, or less organized tribes would probably have the whole community pitch in (it takes a village, as they say) or have a pack (probably elders) for whom that is the traditional role. They would be the tribe's experts in child-rearing, but it would be heavy on aquired experience and light on the formal training given to the professional crechemasters.

As for how long, it depends on their life cycle. They probably start to take on adult responsibilities at the same level of maturity as humans, but what that age that would be is less clear. Ammonia biology makes things wacky, so sexual maturity could be anything from three years to thirty.

 

Which is why I just default to it being the same timespan as with humans, for lack of a definite answer and to avoid confusion.

 

Great. Now I'm confused as to how that avoids confusion.
Marvelous job.

 

In theory, any hyper-advanced technology is akin to magic. In fact I've seen some older race mods take the idea of magic and tweak it to a interesting race bit, like the Kineptic's magic gloves basically being super-specialized energy projection units. True magic? well probably depends, but in theory anything that could channel energy like the staves could get close.

 

I wonder if Avali dream of cheese. Or their Science Snake friends murdering them with the power of science. I know my Science Snake friend would murder everyone with the power of science, he's just too lazy to do all that work tho.

 

avali have been established to be big on music
but; what does the music sound like?
and more importantly: do they have any metal?

 

Traditional avali music might sound something like this:

Since they have better range of sound than we do, it would probably sound quite exotic to us, but since they're traditionally nomads it'd probably sound a bit like our music from the Near East/Sahara I'm thinking.

It might be worth noting that the avali language is somewhere between Japanese, Russian, and Polynesian with its syllable choice and speech patterns, so that mix might also be reflected in other parts of their culture. To be fair, traditional avali culture is completely independent from those on earth (and nearly as divided), so attempting to compare it with human culture most likely comes out grossly inaccurate.