22nd July More Novakids and progression

Discussion in 'Dev Blog' started by Tiy, Jul 22, 2014.

  1. ElectroxSoldier

    ElectroxSoldier Master Chief

    I think all races should have a choice between guns and swords. And balance them out between each race.

    The Novakid can be a specialist in guns, but why should that stop from the other races from crafting primitive guns in low tiers?

    And as you rise in tiers you should be able to craft better guns.

    And any weapon/gun merchants should sell more unique weapons that the player can't craft.

    Just my 2 cents. Otherwise great updates so far! I can't for you guys to show us more!
     
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  2. PDStunnerz

    PDStunnerz Space Hobo

    So Im confused are Novakids in the game now? I havent played in a while but I got on and saw this but couldnt find them in character creation or what. It says they are now in game and functional just curious because if theyre coming out soon Ill wait until theyre released to keep playing if not ill be a human :p
     
  3. Cat656

    Cat656 Void-Bound Voyager

    They are in the nightly build, if I can read right. It may be quite a bit till they reach stable.
     
  4. PDStunnerz

    PDStunnerz Space Hobo

    ok thanks Ill just make a human then
     
  5. yclatious

    yclatious Guest

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    Im guessing something like one of these,a Gunblade.

    Its the closest thing I can find to fit the theme,honestly.
     
  6. ElectroxSoldier

    ElectroxSoldier Master Chief

    I tried checking Starbound since I'm on Nightly Build, they don't seem to show for me yet.

    Maybe they're going to launch the update in an hour or more.
     
  7. Cat656

    Cat656 Void-Bound Voyager

    The nightly usually takes up to 3 hours to update, but I expect the kids will be there when it does.
     
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  9. MysticMalevolence

    MysticMalevolence Oxygen Tank

    Bit early for the novakid, I personally think...
     
  10. Rennyj

    Rennyj Void-Bound Voyager

    As I said before, all aboard the steam hype train!
     
  11. Ultimuh

    Ultimuh Phantasmal Quasar

    I am one of those who would like to see more replacements in racial weapons.
    It doesn't make much sense that humans or apex would use medieval weaponry as they have much more advanced technology.
    So why not replace their swords/axes/spears as well? At least go for modern military weapons.. Or maybe weapons from he cold-war era?
    However this is just my humble opinion.
     
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  12. Litagano Motscoud

    Litagano Motscoud Master Astronaut

  13. Jabberwok

    Jabberwok Phantasmal Quasar

    Curious to see what the higher tier, wild west themed armors will look like.
     
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  14. Ewok

    Ewok Subatomic Cosmonaut

    So much for the Starbound races being purely cosmetic. Even if guns are balanced against swords, Novakid will have a huge advantage comparatively by automatically being ranged.

    Personally I never liked the cosmetic only with racial bonuses tied to armor. It seems silly and is really rather boring. Armor schematics are buyable from various venders so any race can technically get the bonuses. Differentiating them all would be far more interesting. Elder Scrolls would be pretty lame if all the races are the same and any racial benefit was tied to armor. Starbound isn't any different. Besides, we aren't constrained by one character. We can make a Hylotl and have a completely unique playstyle, then turn around and play as Apex in another character slot and try a new playstyle. It adds tons of incentive to change things up as you play. As fun as Starbound is right now it's pretty repetitive, differentiating the races by default will break this up with fresh experiences.
     
  15. yclatious

    yclatious Guest

    Firstly,guns would need a ungodly amount of Buffing to be even minimumly viable.

    Seriously,as of now,its a death sentence.

    Guns do not proviide with such a advantage that they would be superior,realy.Guns arent that much better than Swords if you cant shove away the guy you are shooting and if the gun is much weaker anyhoo.And guns are dependant on Energy.

    Funny you mencion Elder Scrolls,its exactly the same,except with Magic.
    Underpowered,would require enourmous amounts of investment,and still dependent on one stat,of wich if you run out,you cant atack and are dead.

    Diferenciating Races and Races Armour,Weaponry and all that would force you to play a certain race for its Playstyle.Thats forcing you to do something you might not like,just in order to go with a extremely limited and specified playstyle you might want,preventing you from ever using another playstyle.

    That would mean Florans would be Melee Only,Avians would be mostly Guns,Apex a mix of Subjugation weaponry and possibly some other less conventional types,Hylotls would be Daggers and Katanas and Novakids would be guns.

    Whilst it may provide "incentive" to play as another character with another race and another playstyle,it would be effectively forcing you to change your prefered Race into another that you might not ike or even Hate,and it would force you into adapting a playstyle you coudnt change.
    Kinda like Infamous 2,wanna see the other ending?
    Play the game al over again,forcing you to play a difrent play style just for something you want,in this case the other ending,in Starbound,the other playstyle.

    For my Info,the devs think thats quite the bad idea,and so do I,,but what do I know ranting about this at 2: 00 Am of the morning,sleepy as all hell,but still awake?

    F*cked if I know.

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  16. Type1Ninja

    Type1Ninja Hard-To-Destroy Reptile

    They don't need to be so different as to be unbalanced. They should just have... Some bonus. Anywhere. I guess the main point is:
    Races should be different from all of the others in some way. I (and I believe others will agree) do not care whether the abilities can be obtained by other races or not, they just need to be there. And not just the Novakids should have these bonuses. See my previous post (last page, I think?).
     
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  17. dmkrodan

    dmkrodan Orbital Explorer

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.... let us have an AI with a massive moustache and hat.
     
  18. yclatious

    yclatious Guest

    Meh,difrent opinion and perspectives that cant realy coexist.

    I trully believe that in order for there not to be any injustice,all should remain the same,in order to not cause the already mentioned.

    You want for the racial difrentiation to hapen,yet most likely waht I want fr it not to hapen will inevitavly happen,what me and the Devs have been trying not to hapen since the begining.

    Agree to disagree,I supose.
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  19. TheTrueArtisan

    TheTrueArtisan Subatomic Cosmonaut

    Shield Generators sound like an amazing way to prevent someone from cheesing a dungeon, although I have to ask, with there be a way to deactivate it to take some of the decorations of a dungeon home with you? Pilfering treasure is half the fun! The other half is spent crying over what you have to throw away to make room for those treasures...
     
  20. Leocrubellatti

    Leocrubellatti Void-Bound Voyager

    Agreed. Now I ask devs. Is there something wrong with all classes having available their own kind of melee and ranged weapons? Instead of just smashing the flexibility of the game, they could create more themed weapons. I know it will be a lot of work, but that is expected from a company that managed to get 5mill, right? This is a big enough budget to go toe to toe with Divinity (even though both games are COMPLETELY different). Btw, YAY for the first stretch goal being worked on! I was starting to wonder when. o/

    EDIT: FIXED!

    EDIT2: Will you ever fix nightly builds before implementing more stuff? Also, will you ever update the stable version?

    EDIT3: Darkwood is awesome. 'nuff said.
     
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2014

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