wood no longer a fuel source?

Agreed. Which is why I don't see the point of making a fuss.

 

What if we changed the fuel storage to a matter condenser and made it so that you needed "x" level of density to use for fission/fusion to fuel your ship. Lets say you need 10 density for 1 fuel, wood might have a density of 3-4, so it takes 3-4 stacks of 1000 wood to fill up your ship completely (would need testing to see what numbers would be actually balanced).
Something like coal would have a density of 25-30, Iron 50, gold 100, and so on as you go up in tiers. This would make items that people normally leave by the wayside (all that gravel) somewhat useful (.5 density per gravel, maybe a jump per few stacks at that point) as fuel, make it so that you have a back up fuel source in case your primary source is depleted to scarcity on the planet you're on, or you're just feeling lazy.

 

If you still want to use wood to fuel your ship you can add a txt-file into
starbound/assets/recipes/starter/stonefurnace
write the following in it (or copy paste)

{
"input" : [
{ "item" : "fullwood1", "count" : 5 }
],
"output" : {
"item" : "coalore",
"count" : 1
},
"groups" : [ "stonefurnace", "all" ]
}

save it as coalore.recipe.
This will add a recipe for coalore to the furnace crafting station. 5 unrefined wood for one coalore. if you change the 5 to 1 the changerate is 1/1

 

youve never seen "Back to the Future 2" have you?

 

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This. I was just thinking this exact thing should be added to the game. Even the exchange rate is about what I was figuring. Please add this to the game!

 

I think everyone cares too much about fueling the ship. I want to easily hop between worlds and solar systems, wood did that just fine. I want to not really care about my ship (unless something interesting and customizable is done with the ships) and spend my time doing other more fun things. Wood let me do that in the easiest way.

The analogy I'll make here is how in Everybody loves Raymond's intro, Ray introduces his kids as they go on the conveyor belt and says 'it's not really about the kids."

Starbound. You do quests, explore an entire world, harvest resources, and get to advance through solar systems, with your cool ship! "ITS NOT REALLY ABOUT THE SHIP!"
Again maybe eventually they'll make the ship more part of the game later on but.. I don't mind it being just a filler tool.

 

Here, I made a mod for this already, real easy to use and adds a few different types of fuel to use beyond just those old logs: http://community.playstarbound.com/index.php?resources/spacefuel-tamefoxx.8/

 

Thanks, I just copied and pasted Matzurai's post. Easy as pie!

 

I honestly have no idea. I think that's a pretty bad decision on their part. Coal isn't really a good alternative, because it's already used for torches (which takes up most of your coal already) and its much less common than wood.

 

Torches, Steel, Durasteel...

 

Everyone needs to remember our duty as Beta testers. We are the ones that shape the future of this game. We are the ones trying to make it successful. It is our feedback that helps Chucklefish turn the game into something fun and addictive.

Exploring the stars is one of the BIG draws of the game, but when it becomes overly tedious to do so, people will not enjoy it. Removing wood as a direct fuel source and ONLY leaving coal is a bad idea. However, allowing us to "smelt" wood into coal, which is then used as fuel would be better.

Other alternatives, increase the fuel per coal gain. Add in additional fuel sources that are readily available.

Oh, for those that said "using wood as fuel doesn't make sense". How much sense does it make to travel through space on coal? We don't even use coal to power automobiles.

 

Steam power for FTL travel! Woo!

 

You know what bothers me about all of this?

I was not even fine with using wood, because I thought it was too slow.

Fuel is a basic resource you need to COSNTANTLY grind.. FOREVER... are you serious? Is this all Starbound wants to be?

THATS the problem. You're going for resources and exploring to find things to progress through the game, that makes sense to me. Having to stop and grind for even wood at every turn (or now coal), its just... completely unfun.

I actually even feel similarly to food, but that is much more easily brushed aside, while fuel is just constantly in the way.

Unless you're telling me they want to implement a way to get yourselves slaves that get you fuel automatically or some such, I know for a fact I'll be cheating infinite fuels very soon.

Start making a game, stop making a grind.

 

I think the best thing to do is just add another early game fuel or..... mod in a nuclear reactor


Edit or for the people who like clean energy bio fuels like plant matter and solar power

 

... your complaining about grind in a game about digging for materials to advance armor to get to the next spot so that you can do the same.... correct me if I'm wrong here?

 

Solar isn't going to happen for a bit.. However I have created biofuels in my mod. I am now working on adding a particle condenser that will give dirt a 5:1 fuel ratio... But it's not going to be easy or cheap.

 

ah i see

 

Is that all the game ever wants to be?

Because you're right at one thing. If the only thing this game ever does is make you dig for boring minerals on every planet without anything interesting at all, then its unarguably a very bad game.

Fortunately I thought the point was that there would be a lot more to it than that.

 

Its Terraria with a space motif. Not mass effect, not Skyrim in space. Its how these games play.

Just be glad youre not playing that other new 2d mining game.

 

The beta has been out 6 days it needs time to grow ideas.