Will starbound be a game defined by god awful grinding?

I fail to see it being "grindy" and I have played plenty of MMO's and other games that had far more of a grind than anywhere near what this is. As for the "lie" it may or may not be no way of proving it for all you or I know he could have gotten a lucky starting planet and you may have gotten a really shitty one.

 

Read the rest of my post.

Minecraft's progression is so short that I'm pretty sure there are longer games on the Atari. If that's the kind of game you're used to, I cannot take your argument seriously.

 

No, just no. I'm prepared to accept some questionable claims about the first boss in 1.5 hours. That might be doable. Some other claims in that general vicinity might be the extreme end of possible. Finishing the Beta Boss in 4 hours... is I think deeply unlikely but I'd give some benefit of the doubt that someone both lucky and marginally lacking in self awareness and the ability to reliably track time might believe that.

But tier 10 armor in 4 hours. No. Just no. That's crazy talk and even the people dismissing the grind in this game should call out talk like that as crazy talk.

 

The only thing that "feels" like a grind so far in this game is needing pixels to craft half the items.

 

So I guess they should make it more realistic by turning the mining / chopping speed to a crawl cause it can take hours to mine that one bar of copper?

 

That's not even a lot of ore or pixels... I can't tell if you're being serious. I've gotten to the current end tier multiple times and not once have I found it to be grindy.
I mean, sometimes you happen upon a planet that is complete shit for resources, but other than that... what?

 

It really isn't hard to get the ore needed and the pixels to just start jumping up the tiers. Either way you are going off of your experiences when deciding what is and isn't a lie, it is my experience that it is possible with a bit of luck to do as that person said. The difference being I am not discounting your experience of possibly having a really shitty start world(which due to the RNG nature of the world gen could be entirely possible).

 

I stopped using a hunting knife in alpha because i started throwing meat away to make room in my inventory.

 

As someone who's played GregTech, please god no.

 

4-ish hours from 1st spawn seems ok-ish time to "powerlevel" to tier 10 stuffs.

 

To do the ridiculous claimed tier 10 armour in 4 hours you would need to what? Grind the materials I covered for the first two tiers in 1 hour? Half an hour? Less?

Precisely WHAT sort of "lucky starting planet" lets you grind over 600 iron ore in less than an hour? Much less under half an hour?

But more importantly lucky starting planets or not is no longer a sufficient excuse. When you could relatively quickly use wood as fuel (with the proviso that you not be unlucky and stuck without even ready access to wood), then you could make an excuse like that. But the coal costs for fuel at present are unacceptable especially since you are looking at over 400 coal just for the one minimum jump to Beta sector and the basic stuff you need.

Basically "Try another planet" isn't a sufficient excuse when doing so is punitively costly in the same materials you need to excessively grind already.

 

Doesn't it only cost 100 coal to jump between sectors? I mean it's still a pain in the ass, but not 400 coal.

 

The 400 coal cost is the cost of upgrading your armor, building the robot, and all the things you will need to do up to the end of tier 2, all of that with the 100 cost of one single jump between sectors included. No additional jumps, no more than two planets. Ever.

Check your quote, see the bit where it says 1 jump minimum "and the basic stuff you need"

 

I have to say this.

Would you prefer it to all be handed to you on a silver plater? I mean I actually hate game's that have ZERO grinding element, there is literally no point in those game's, no reason to play what so ever... you should never be able to reach max level within a week or two, hell even reaching max level within a month is bad. With that said, these type's of game's are all about the gathering, crafting and building, so to have resources handed to you is a bad idea... and if you are having trouble in this beta which is highly unbalanced in the sense I can go start a new character and have steel based weapons and armour within an hour....

hell even the higher tier isn't hard to get a the moment, ore isn't as scarce as it should be...

 

Building the robot doesn't get you to the beta sector, that gets you to the gamma sector.

 

Sooo... that has what to do with what I said?

I outlined the costs to do alpha, jump to beta, build your basic equipment in those tiers and build the robot. That is all. If you want to start talking gamma sector we can START with the +100 coal minimum required to jump to Gamma sector.

Making it fairly easily about 500 coal minimum to actually complete and leave beta sector.

 

I dont get why people want to blaze through this game in a few hours. I think some people really think that "exploring the cosmos" is the main game mechanic here...its not. The entire game rest on the premise of loot progression and building. if you trivialize that, there isnt much game here. Yes, you can travel to planets, but there really isnt THAT much to travel to or do. This is no Star Trek/Star Wars sim. The devs promote planet hopping so much that many players have lost sight of what kind of game they are REALLY playing. Its not the devs fault, planet hopping IS a cool mechanic, but its a cool mechanic in a mining game.

 

Kinda makes more sense, what's the point of building the robot and not going to the next sector?

Also you didn't mention the diamond pickaxe, which would add another 32 diamond ore and 1600 pixels.

 

>all of these fanboys saying the game is perfect and not grindy at all

Might as well just throw in microtransaction to pass the pixel and ore grinds, I'm sure the fanbase will be perfectly fine with that.

 

I didn't "blaze" through the game until the last update, I did it to see how fast I could do it with the current system's and ore distribution (which I know will be changed) also I never said anything about hopping planet's, I got the mat's need to gear up for the first 2 tier's from one planet...

Also I am not complaining in anyway, just stating that with out some form of grind, it's just another place block here game, I got fed up of MMO's having linear based gameplay and being able to max level in a week, sure this isn't a level based game (depending on how you look at it, since the tier basis could be seen as a level system in a sense.)