Will no longer be posting my mods on here (as if anyone cares)

FLAME ALL THE PEOPLE!!!!11! (On a slightly unrelated note, I'm not a guy)

 

sorry i kinda use "guy" as a replacement to the word "Person" or something like that.

 

I don't fully understand what this is all about. The OP doesn't really describe what the issue is very well.

 

Can't please everyone. :/
This was the solution that people seemed to like the most.

On another note, is it really that hard to keep it civil in threads like these? Like, is it genuinely that difficult to stay on topic without resorting to aggressive, rude comments?

 

He/She is upset because he/she thinks you shouldn't have to ask to use someone elses work. I have a 'inbetween' standing on this but I'm leaning towards the current thing because someone's work is their work, and nobody else's.

Once again, I wasn't making any rude comments (That I know of)

Once again, I wasn't making any rude comments (That I know of)

 

You are double posting, though. Please use the edit button.

 

I wasn't writing about the difficulty or amount of work that went into the coding. I was writing about the inherent derivative nature of code written for a mod.
The whole property analogy is false because we aren't building something on our own private property, we are building something on Chucklefish property.

 

My two penn'orth:

I dislike a culture of non-openness in general. A culture of openness, collaboration, derivative works, and so on is a far better place to be. However, I also believe that content creators should have the right to be closed if they so wish. I'd avoid those who practice non-openness as far as possible though.

I guess what I am trying to say is let the mod makers decide. And to those that think jealously protecting mods is a complete crock, boycott the mods of those who don't practice openness.

The new policy is great for transparency and to reduce drama. But if a closed culture is something we are to avoid, we must act as a community to show that we don't find it cool to be closed.

OP, I am unaware of what mods you have made. But don't stop modding because of this policy. I would urge you to continue to create cool stuff and lead by example by opting to share content freely and without restriction. And same goes for anyone else who shares OP's sentiments.

Bleh. Ramblings.

 

Yes, but that was after, and I fixed it.. (before you replied I should say) or maybe it never happened. You can't proove nothin *shifty eyes* *shifty eyes*

 

Oh woe is us! We actually have to follow the same guidelines as the rest of the world? Asking for permission before taking other's work? Rabble rabble, we'll just steal their work!

*chuckle*

It doesn't matter if you move to Steam workshop - You'll still be branded a thief if you openly take other's work and pass it off as your own without asking for permission or attribution.

 

Basically the old policy was "no need to ask, no way to object" before the new system was introduced. Now communication is actually encouraged.

 

You are right, but having the same snarkiness as the TC isn't helping :/

 

It helps point out how whiny and insisting OP is about getting their way. (Yes we call it OP in this day and age, not TC - Whereever you have that from...)

 

oh gosh, here we go, it's the technic pack drama all over again. Well at least one good thing came from that whole fiasco, FTB(modpacks actively supported by the mod devs). As a normal player the only thing I really care about is mods being relatively easy to install(which they are currently but there are problems with that currently), and that they are compatible with other mods. If people want to control permissions I'm fine with that. I'll just grab a modpack with perms, then manually install the other mods I want or build my own private modpack for personal use. It's obvious the creators of this game want to respect the mod devs creations and why not? Telling them they don't deserve to control the permissions of their work is like having someone take your art piece and then painting a few new things on it and putting it up in the same museum with the curator telling you "sorry, nothing we can do about it". It's like someone tweaks your mod a bit and uploads that tweaked version riding on the popularity and content of your mod, it's mostly your mod but they are the ones getting the stars and the thanks/praise. No you can't legally put a copyright on the mod but it's still a dick move for someone to take it without asking and do whatever the fuck they want with it.

 

Oh, well yeah the modder should at least get a say in who mods their stuff and it's really their choice. I think there's something about creative rights in here or something.

Either way, this grants an option and I really don't see anything wrong with it. I still don't understand what the issue is.

 

I do agree that there exists a problem where a mod author leaves the community and his work is unfinished. The solution I've used in the past is to simply contact the author *before* this happens to make it very well known that his mod is open source in the event that he does leave. I don't think it would be fair or productive to simply demand that every modder surrender the rights to their mod the second that it is uploaded as it denies that mod author the ability to update the mod in a fashion that they see fit later on if someone has decided to incorporate their work into something else.

Yes, I've seen it create drama, but that is because people are dramatic. Yet, for all the drama it usually helps foster a community as it actively gets people communicating and discussing their mod strategies. People who where never into modding to begin with now have a haven that they can ask questions and learn, which results in a community of better modders. This policy has had, in the past, plenty of good things arise out of it as well.

If you only focus on the negative that's all you would see.

 

By that logic art assets are the same though, because they're interacting with the game, just as code might (at least in a similar fashion.) not all mods are strictly modifications to the base game, a lot are completely fresh additions that interact with the base game. A completely ridiculous, but similar analogy would be like saying a website that integrates with a separate outside site is property of that second website.

 

That's a prevention, not a solution.

 

I dont see the problem with these policy changes. Someone makes a mod and if he or she wants this mod to be open-source its entirely up to the maker to choose so. If the modder wants to keep their work in their own hands, its their choice aswell. All Chuckefish is doing is making sure that, atleast on their own mod platform, peoples work is protected.

I dont fear this will lead to stagnation, if anything having your work ripped off constantly is one of the things that could make talented and dedicated modders simply give up modding. Exceptional modders make their own work, and dont need or rely on taking assets from other peoples work.
And without such a restriction, before long, any popular mod will have been ripped and slightly altered many times. And we end up with 1001 different versions floating around and cluttering the place up.

Besides the whole 'common decency' thing. Ofcourse this is never a full protection, people will still rip off and mod mods, or make modpacks. But then atleast these wont be destributed through Chucklefish's platform.

 

...which is apparently a bad thing for some here; people on the internet will continue to baffle me to no end.