Why im highly disapointed about the team from Starbound part 2

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We've told you countless times how the whole menu thing is irrelevant. If you're complaining about physics, I'd assume you're referring to this.

Adding, goddamnit, adding. Not "We've only begun working on physics", adding. Adding an optional thing at that.

 

First off, no offense meant, but don't complain about other people not taking the time to understand your grievances if you are not taking the time to understand their responses. You've basically said the same thing four times, with bonus angry red text. And the answer you will continue to receive is this:

Menus and cosmetic bits and bobs are not the core, fundamental features you think they are, and in fact do not come first. Not even the content, the objects in the universe, and all of that is. The systems come first. The interface and content are things for the user, but for the features needed for the game to operate in and of itself, like world generation-- those need lots of work, and things that you wouldn't think are as important, are much more so. It's been said that game developers and the people who play them experience the development process from opposite ends of the string, and I find the phrase to be very true.

Here's a quote directly from Tiy on IRC way back when to aide your understanding:

EDIT: And also please consider the margin of error from conflicting code and just unexpected shit going wrong, and the fact that games of this scope and ambition can take many more years than others. And I'm sorry (sincerely, no sarcasm here) if my answer is hard to understand, I often use complex English without realizing it.

 

I don't think this person is even listening, It pretty much shows.

 

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i hope everybody knows what i mean with.

Autzome is at the moment the only one who got me right.

i guess by reading it you guys will understand it. coz i guess you dont want to get it.

 

An important thing to try and remember is the summer estimate for 2012 might of been when the game was a bit more... Simplistic. I remember at one point they said armor was one item that covered all slots and totally changed appearance. And I also remember a time where some of the sandboxyness might not of been there.

If that's true whatever was estimated for 2012 isn't the game everyone is hyped up for now. Starbound as we know it hasn't been in production that long if they really did rewrite and redesign a ton of content and systems.

 

What stuff? You keep saying stuff like that, but what stuff exactly? Because other than those things nothing of that nature has been added in a long time as they have already been finished long ago...

Anyway I am done with this thread, LeonD clearly cannot speak English to any degree where he can understand our posts and we are all wasting time responding to him.

 

We've read your posts a million times. We have told you time and time again that things do not happen in the order you think they should. We get exactly what you're saying, and that's why we're so irritated with you. You're not listening to what we are saying.

 

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Explains absolutely nothing about what you're complaining about. It is pretty much literally nothing.

It seems you cannot listen. I'm beginning to think that your apparently elementary grasp on the English language is making you misinterpret many things, many things that you cannot find the apt words to explain to us.

 

You do realize that Autzome just agrees with you then said the EXACT things but in different syntax that WE ARE?
It's almost like you're a brick wall.

 

Water physics is done, lighting physics is finished, gravity is A-ok... what more do you want from the devs? Codes? Because they're doing that too.

 

A ) you don't seem to be posting a actual question just frustration (which i some what understand i really would like to play myself)
B ) this isnt the first game to say they are going to release the game at a certain time and it gets pushed back things happen
C ) they need to implement as much of the game they can before they release so a large amount of people don't get used to something they later want to change and upsets a big fraction of the community
D ) be patient my friend i knew about it just as soon as you have but moaning about push backs doesn't really help anyone

I hope that is a more proper response I'm not trying to belittle or make fun of you its just the factors game developers have to consider before being 100% sure... they could probably have released a beta long ago but it would be more of a hassle of being spammed about bugs and fixes etc. I think this developer team really does listen to the community and involves them for changes and actually takes ideas from these forums which is very thoughtful and imo a really good way to operate. I can't stress enough about me wanting to play just as bad as you but I appreciate that they want to give us a well polished and good product and that is the bottom line.

 

Im done with this thread, the OP obviously does not want to explain themselves in a concise manner that we can understand.

 

its so funny (more or less) that people dont got it. i "complain" and try to "explain" and get to "know" about why they build on stuff which should be done month ago. i heard on you, read about stuff like "real life cases" but still.

why is starbound that late now? why its not finish? thats not the question. my question is: why is there stuff NOW done which should be done in time? i dont need to say WHAT exactly but how i said, what when the game came really out last winter 2012 as sample? it.was.still.not.finish.

So how i said it guys. if i build a game and it should be done -intime- i cant bring out pictures, videos, STUFF HELL LIKE THAT, after the original r.date. we will see. think about it.

 

I think it would help us understand you if you understood the development teams messages.


I also believe that your... "audience" would better understand you if you were typing in grammatical sentences and were making sense, rather then flinging information out in an emotional eruption of confusing... information. I (believe) I understand what you mean, but I don't sympathize with you. Chances are the game has been escalated, especially after the developers watched one million dollars fall into their laps.

If they are reworking the options menu now, then I don't see what the issue is, chances are it's simply an improvement or efficiency buff to the old system.

 

There isn't.

 

It's been answered numerous times.
What you think should be done months ago is not what the team needs to do months ago.

 

Okay, so what exactly should have been done ago?

We've covered the menu, the physics, what else need you to know?
Are you saying this stuff should've been actually shown sooner? Please, just explain to use what exactly is ailing you.

 

The answer to this is simply "Shit happens". Things had to be reworked, things got added, the devs were working 2 jobs, blah blah blah. They also never really wanted to give out estimated dates, they only did so because we kept asking them.

 

Perhaps this was the reason the date was extended? Just a guess, but if they are working on improving their entire system, chances are there were road blocks or speed bumps that required attention before the development of an uninvested game. Certainly, these are base features, but they aren't features you need to MAKE the game, only to play it. They are minor exercises for individuals who don't have immediate access to a list of code and a command window.

That is the nature of a user menu. It's for the users, and shouldn't be necessary while a game is being developed until it is in its closer-to-release stages. It's actually a fairly minor feature that likely sits somewhere low on the priority list, somewhere below "art assets" and "actual gameplay" if I had to make a shot in the dark.