Updates are too large to be this frequent.

oh so by "vast majority" you didn't mean vast majority of people who play Starbound. I was also confused for a second.

 

EA uses .pak files and it ships hot messes. Battlefield 4 was terrible on-launch, Simcity 5 was DOA, and those were finished games. Let me show you an example, with pictures.




Okay, 127 files, cool.




That's...music I added, alright. Seems a little much.


That's their music, okay, that's...huh. 54 + 71 is 125, where are the last two files?



Shit.

 

Whaddaya know, VasVadum posting some inflammatory, argument-sparking shit. There are a few in every community, I suppose.

 

So according to you, people in Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, UK, Turkey, Iceland and Luxembourg don't play Starbound. AKA, countries that all have high internet penetration rates.

Nice to know, I guess.

 

No, I'm saying that your stats only show people who use the Internet (unless I missed something way more specific than I saw), not people who play starbound or are even gamers. It doesn't prove that a vast majority of the people who play starbound have limited bandwidth, nor has that even been named as a factor in determining the reason for doing what they did. So it could irrelevant to the decision that was made. That's all.

 

Okey? You're saying they had bad launch because how they package their game? Okey!

Still, .pak are amazing for serverowners, there's no denying in that.

 

Really? You could've just said that then.

5g.Prevalence of explicit bit/data caps among surveyed offers, by country, September 2012

5h.Average data caps by country

And for reference; 3b.Broadband penetration and total landmass (Dec. 2007)

 

I'm sorry for the confusion. I didn't say that because I wasn't trying to argue with you. I was just saying your link clarified what my original thoughts on your "vast majority" comment were about.

 

Even without the confusion, your earlier post was nitpicking. Starbound is a game that is only available in English. The US, Canada, Australia, NZ and UK are the most notable countries that have English as a primary language and are host to a majority population speaking English. 4/5 have bandwidth capped internet plans. It's not a stretch to say that Starbound is likely sold more in those countries than elsewhere. Check Steam stats: a significant proportion of gamers come from these countries.

Thanks for explaining though.

 

Heh, I just stripped the debug symbols from 'starbound.exe', went from ~500mb to ~12mb... As a coder, I have never seen debug information take THAT much space! Also, debug information compiled by a Microsoft compiler spits out a separate PDB file. While it still inflates the size of the exe slightly, the bulk of the information is in the PDB. I don't see why their compiler (whatever it is they use, probably some form of GCC) can't do that.

On top of that, I see that 'symsrv.dll' is included under Windows, this actually downloads the symbols from the internet (or in my case, from my HD since I have the MS debug symbols installed), it IS possible to setup your own servers to do this with your own debug symbols and have the information downloaded when needed (and only what is needed).

Oh well, I feel sorry for those with limits on bandwidth and speed, thankfully, mine is nice and fast without limits on bandwidth. Still, I can totally understand the OP's issues with these updates, since it is nuts how large they are.

 

lol there are still ISP's that have limited bandwidth internet packages?I thought that limited bandwidth was just for cellphone plans..

 

I don't believe it was nitpicking. We aren't talking about comparing countries (or at least we shouldn't be). We're comparing people who play Starbound that have limited bandwidth to people who don't (but deeming the people who don't play Starbound irrelevant). You're comparing general internet use.

Off the top of my head analogy: It's like asking a group of meat-eaters and vegans whether they use eating utensils. 100 meat eaters and 500 vegans answer that they use eating utensils so the vast majority of utensil-users would be vegan, but then if we're more specific and ask how many use those utensils to eat meat, that's suddenly not the case and the vegans (in this case, they'd be the non-starbound players) would become irrelevant too.

 

Sho' nuff

 

It's pretty sad that in 2014 that some have such bad internet. I mean, when my internet derps I just connect my phone and gets easily over 5MB/S

Although I don't agree that they should build a game around someones bad internet.

 

look at the bright side, the US is getting a bunch more cities with Google Fiber, and I'll be living in one.

 

Finally ?

 

I don't have capped bandwidth, never have, but Google Fiber is still a way better deal. 100 up and down for ~$70.

 

Yeah ..

 

No more posts about people's internet connections. Nobody who plays games intentionally has internet with a cap, its not a productive line of discussion.

 

More like "updates are to infrequent." The large part I'm perfectly content with.