Tiy: Pirate it, like it? Buy it, if not, delete it!

Wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong.

You are obviously one of the numerous victims of the brainwash propaganda of EA and associates with:
"Buhuhuhu Evil Pirates pirated our games, therfore we got to install DRM on all our games, we are the victims and they are the evil ones"

Thats Bullshit but people like you are to blind to realize that. EA will put their dick in your mouth over and over and over again, even if their games wouldnt be pirated.
Unfourtunatley they only way to talk with those jerks is with money. I simply dont buy EA games anymore and to this date I didnt even had to pirate one of their games because most of them were crap anyway. But just in case their pops one up, I leave myself this option open.

 

Kayoma sounds like a fucking tool if he can't shell out 15 bucks for a game when he obviously can. There is no need for an SB demo with the hundreds of lets plays available on YT, the only reason would be to see if it will run since it has it's share of bugs still.

Regardless, pirating is bad and shouldn't be seen as alright.

 

Wow hypocritical and rude. This is typical of someone who pirates EA games though.

 

Or if you bought it once and lost it somehow. I could see a tiny justification then, but I'm still not really for it unless..... the developer says "Go ahead and pirate it!"

My friend works for Naughty Dog, so when I hear about people stealing games it urks me a little bit, because low game sales on a single game can close the doors on a studio, depending on the publisher they are with.

 

And unlike Diablo 3, PoE doesn't suck.

 

Oh please, there always was and there always will be piracy.

And obviously it cant be typical for people who pirate EA games, because as I stated it wasnt necessary for me to this date.
The only game I might have my eyes on is Mass Effect 4, and thats a big maybe because its probably tied to the spyware Origin.

Anyway just do whatever you want, you follow your moral compas and I will do the same.
Just dont dare to buy EA games and then complain about them and their policys.

 

EA puts the DRM on the games, not the development company. When you pirate games, you make sales numbers lower. That can be enough for big publishers to close whole studios which costs all the people who made the game you like lose their jobs. It doesn't hurt the publisher because they will most likely make their investment back anyway. If you don't like the game then the result is the same as if you never bought it, so no big deal.

But pirating is not innocent.

 

I understand why Tiy said what he did. It's more drama and stress than it's worth, and it's out of his control who pirates the game.

Doesn't make pirating right in any way, however, and it's something only losers choose to do. You're no better than petty drug store thieves.

 

100% is probably an exaggeration outside of the context of normal games. Pure DRM is relatively easy to crack. When you get into online games where there is no single player mode, things are a bit different. There are MMOs (which Diablo III rightly is) that pirates don't have server software for and thusly cannot crack. If the game is loved enough, some crazy fool(s) will write their own server software for it. World of Warcraft and Ragnarok Online come to mind as MMOs where fans wrote their own server software. I'm sure there are few terrible DRM protected games that nobody bothered to crack, because nobody wants to play them (which Diablo III righly was, I understand they fixed it some, as it was just a glorified AH simulator). Even in those cases where a game is always online, you could still argue that DRM fails in the form of stolen account information. There are entire classes of malware aimed at stealing passwords for World of Warcraft and there was brief spike of them for Diablo III until the real money AH concept fell apart.

I agree, the real Diablo 3 is Path of Exile. Diablo 3 broke my heart every time I found a legendary item that were almost all trash. With the loot system balanced around the AH, the actual gameplay was just terrible... like playing games at casino where you always lose. I quit Diablo 3 in the first month and never looked back. I've heard things are better now, and will potentially be great with the expansion, but its too late to win me back.

 

Just throwing this out there, Origin isn't actually that bad of a service. I mean, yeah it only sells EA games, but it's not as bad as spyware.

 

Oh yes I know this. My only problem is people like you riding high on your horse declaring you will be pirate EA games because "their gud an i don like EA".

Its obvious debating this is useless though. The EA bandwagon will descend on me soon enough.

One last thing though. If you can justify pirating "Mass Effect 4" how about Half Life 3?

 

Piracy doesn't put money back into the developer's hands, effectively affecting them in their next project.

It could easily start a cycle of: Spend money making good game > release > lose money to piracy > Spend money making an alright game > release > lose money to piracy > spend money making a mediocre game > release > lose money to piracy... and so on.

Company shouldn't matter, it's just a bad excuse to try and make you pirating a game seem like justice.

Just because YOU don't see the effects of piracy from the outside, doesn't mean those industries aren't actually dealing with it

 

This. Origin does its job well. I don't really use it though as I mainly use Steam.

 

Ah, a dev who accepts pirating. Good for him, its gonna happen, and its good to embrace it (may even get a few extra copies just for that)

Now, disregarding that previous comment piraters suck and I think they should buy this awesome game.

 

Not to mention that it's horribly disrespectful to the developers when you pirate. not only are you not paying them, you're almost blatantly saying "no, your product isn't worth money and you should feel bad.".

 

That is literally exactly what I did. I pirated it at first and liked it, and especially with all the updates that were happening that I wasn't getting, I bought it. (I joined the forums after I bought it actually.)

 

Tiy has a stance I lived on. I only pirated games because demos were overly limited or non-existent for games I was interested in. I am not rich. I have little money some weeks, as does my family members. I bought many games regardless. In fact, when the 'Noid was up (will not name the torrent site fully) I would buy rare discs then upload games like Starship Troopers: Terran Ascendancy, Alpha Centauri, and many other games that were hard to get. Starship Troopers Terran Ascendancy was a $55 disc for me, back when games were going for $40 max brand new. I had to get it at an auction in near mint condition with manual. I shared it with the world because you cannot legally buy a copy. But now GOG.Com came around, almost all of the games I uploaded can now be sold. I took them down as GOG made them available then the 'Noid shuttered.

Anyhow, point is I like Tiy's stance. I already bought Starbound though, so no need for me to 'acquire' it.

 

Ummm...as someone who has pirated more games, software and music then I can count. (I at once point had a Cease and Desist filed against my old IP.) I find this statment incredibly rude and offensive. There has only ever been a handful of things I pirated that I didn't buy shortly afterwords. The main exception to this being SNES games, whose developers I can't directly support anymore. (Many of them have sunk sadly. QQ R.I.P. Paladin's Quest) Have I pirated EA games? Not at first, because EA hadn't screwed me over yet. Did you buy Spore? I own it on Steam, I can no longer install the game and connect to the online interface without first calling EA, goodluck with that BTW, since the game is archaic finding someone who is willing to, or can help you confirm you own the game is next to impossible, could I crack it? Sure, but according to you I'd be hypocritcal and rude. Don't judge so harshly, you're coming across as ignorant to me.

@QShadow- Origin has sorted their SpyWare shit out actually, they changed their EULA several times, and the programs that it DLs with it, that said the only EA game I've played in awhile was Dead Space 3 and soley because a friend bought it for me and asked me to do Multiplayer with them.

Long-story short? Not everyone is an evil pirate, most of my pirating was done when I was working 2 full time jobs and could barely keep my internet on because I was paying the bills of two households, now that a have a good paying job and a stable one at that, and am not the sole responsibility for so many bills. I buy games that I may dislike, because I want to try them. Swords and Soldiers is a good example of this, I bought it, disliked it. I didn't complain or whine, I just know to avoid that published until they put out something really special.


Edit- Also, the fact that Tiy said this, makes me even happier I pre-ordered starbound and support them so much, it's good to see a competent Dev, who understands there will be pirates, and doesn't mind people pirating, as long as they buy it if they like it. You'll always have good and bad on both sides of any fence.

 

Pre-Ordered the day they opened!

 

I'm absolutley aware of that. Trust me whenever I decided to pirate a game, which happened only with 2 games thus far (FTL and Civilization 5, both games I bought later on), I have reasons why I'm doing it.

I'm not riding high on my horse.... actually I dont even have a horse... nevermind!, I wont pirate a game just for lulz. I hate EA from the very depths of my heart, but I wouldnt pirate every EA gamejust to send a message. EA will sink their boat themself eventually. And Half Life 3? Well I actually like Valve and their policys but the truth is I never played Half Life so I probably wont buy 3 anyway.