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"Thump" as you enter hyperspace.

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by LazerEagle1, May 25, 2013.

  1. Phyrex

    Phyrex Parsec Taste Tester

    on an unrelated note about FTL travel.
    "true" faster than light travel would be a silly idea because you'd be a subject to einstein's relativity theory.
    i think the best way would be a sort of drive that creates a field around the ship and compress space around it, making the ship look like it disapear because its in a compressed bubble of space.
    the strenght of the engine would determine how much space can be compressed making the ship being in "two places" at the same time and reapeearing at its "jump" destination instantly.
    kinda like the wormhole theory.

    sorry, the topic inspired me :p
     
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  2. fallingorbit

    fallingorbit Hard-To-Destroy Reptile

    I have to agree. FTL sort of flies in the face of modern physics, not to mention that even traveling twice as fast as light would still being too slow to actually make galactic travel convenient. In the end, it would probably be easier and safer to bend two points in space and slip through the wormhole, as you suggested.

    Back on topic: the science fiction logic in Starbound is fine for a video game. :up:
     
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  3. Phyrex

    Phyrex Parsec Taste Tester


    the cool part here is that while the idea of wormhole as executed in the show stargate has the person crossing "deconstructed" into its component atoms (opening the whole debate of "is its still truely me. which i am NOT talking about here lol)
    while with my idea, the ship nor space around it or on its path is even touched. space is simply compressed and looped around the ship until it arrives at destination.

    might take a lot to wrap one's mind around the concept tho to realize its actually simpler and more convenient than other methods
     
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  4. fallingorbit

    fallingorbit Hard-To-Destroy Reptile

    Spacetime is a fabric that can be stretched, warped and distorted. I get what you are saying.
     
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  5. Menasor

    Menasor Phantasmal Quasar

    Who needs the discovery channel.
     
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  6. LazerEagle1

    LazerEagle1 Master Astronaut

    Well space isn't an 100% vacuum either. There is still a (negligible) amount of Hydrogen in there, as well as Photons and stuff like that. It is a little closer than we can get on Earth but it isn't perfect. And I do 100% agree with you on overall Quantum Mechanics. We essentially know nothing in the grand scale of things. I mean, we have estimates and hypotheses, but all of these could easily be wrong. I still don't buy the whole "dark matter cancelling out matter" vacuum thing though, as there has to be some sort of source for it all.

    I don't even know at this point. I am so uncertain about Quantum Mechanics (Haha lame pun of the day!) that I honestly don't give two shits about how our universe works anymore. Like, why does it even matter to us that Electrons only behave like particles when observed? Is it interesting? Sort of, but it's not like it'll save any lives or anything. In my lifetime, we won't have widespread interstellar travel, so knowing exactly what outer space is is kind of irrelevant to me. If this thread taught me anything, it's that I'm just done thinking about this stuff. Ugh
     
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  7. LazerEagle1

    LazerEagle1 Master Astronaut

    The best part about this thread is how sure you guys are about all of this. Like "Oh well we can just bend the Spacetime."

    But do we even know if that's possible? I mean, Wormholes are still hypothetical, we have yet to discover one. For all we know, it could be impossible to do.
     
  8. raTTy

    raTTy Void-Bound Voyager

    wait wait, so you are talking about high energy physics and quantum mechanics, about relativity, spacetime and stuff and at the same time you are still predicting there would be no noise inside the ship?
     
  9. Keadin

    Keadin Big Damn Hero

    Well, I'd say if this is the biggest problem some people have with the game, we're in good shape!

    EDIT:
    The curving of space is a fact, established through countless measurements. I'd say curving of space is on the same level of certainty as evolution, it's staring us right in the face. Also, Einstein's theory of relativity is built on space being malleable. If it weren't we'd be in massive scientific doodoo...
     
  10. Dragrath

    Dragrath Phantasmal Quasar

    I'd like to point out Quantum mechanics are not what forbids FTL in fact on the quantum level physics is nonlocal, in other words there is no distance an object halfway across the universe 2 atoms can interact as just the same as 2 atoms nearby. The theory that contradicts FTL is relativity primary that the speed of light is constant at all reference frames because of this one can eventually derive that nothing can go faster than the speed of light which is asymptotically reachable only my massless particles and that space and time are linked as dimensions of a single "space time". This is one of the reasons why Einstein hated quantum mechanics, it unlike his theory of relativity doesn't factor distance for example if two particles are entangled with each other they could be used to communicate instantaneously no matter the distance(the challenge is to avoid the particle interaction from being broken up though)

    Theoretically according to quantum mechanics you could use entanglement to travel instantaneously by teleportation only problem is that it would take an unimaginable amount of time to upload the necessary information to a computer to send it...
     
  11. danpanda

    danpanda Subatomic Cosmonaut

    yada yada yada i study physics yada yada yada - Im in my 5th year of medicine and i am SO annoyed humans aren't the only race and all their organs aren't adhering to known anatomy.

    And it's like totally known that humans are now almost fully understood, this game's just getting too far fetched for me.
     
  12. Lobo

    Lobo Spaceman Spiff

    True... mostly i don't care about what they add into these games. Like, if they say bananas becomes donuts in other galaxies i'll just accept it, because who knows if that is true or not! xD
    some people tend to argue too much about things like, adding magic to sci-fi games, FTL travels, bending space and time, and i sometimes try to show 'em nothing is impossible :)
     
  13. danpanda

    danpanda Subatomic Cosmonaut

    On a side note - does this mean that if i fart in space, I will neither hear nor smell it?
     
  14. Dragrath

    Dragrath Phantasmal Quasar

    well if you were in space you would be farting in your space suit... :x
    (unless you want your body to depressurize, asphyxiate and freeze...
     
  15. danpanda

    danpanda Subatomic Cosmonaut

    i think it depends on the quality of said 'fart'. I can only remember one in my lifetime that was exceptional enough that i was happy to depressurize, asphyxiate and freeze afterwards
     
  16. Exkaiser

    Exkaiser Big Damn Hero

    Your body wouldn't freeze, since there's no air for heat to diffuse into. Heat would only be lost through radiation, which is an incredibly slow process, and you'd be long dead way before it made you cold.

    Fun fact: When exposed to a vacuum, the exposed liquids on your body (mostly your mouth and eyes) will actually boil off because of the lower pressure. There have been several people who this has happened to first-hand.
     
  17. Dragrath

    Dragrath Phantasmal Quasar

    I actually already knew that the 3 process I mentioned all occur but on different time scales however don't forget that the rate of heat loss is inversely proportional to the diameter of an object(you you indeed would depressurize first... long before asphyxiation took place...) can't believe a forgot radiation though:facepalm:
     
  18. TsukiOkami

    TsukiOkami Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Don't know if anyone actually still cares about the whole sound thing, but the way I see games that give sound in space is "Since this is a game, and not actually in person, we are going to give you the rare chance to hear what all of these awesome machines and lasers sound like, as if it was actually in atmosphere!"
     
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  19. Kyber

    Kyber Phantasmal Quasar

    Hey Bill Nye. Unless you plan to choose human, only wear armor and use weapons that humans have created IRL, and explore only one planet that resembles earth in every possible way the game can muster, you're going to be sadly disappointed when you try to wield your science about in a fantasy/science-fiction game. And if that wasn't convincing enough; engines may combust outside, but the hardware is built into the ship's frame, which causes vibrations, and noise... inside. Until a real FTL ship exists, you can hardly argue about what sort of noise the jump causes. Game. Set. Match.
     
  20. Zatike

    Zatike Subatomic Cosmonaut

    Maybe the sound is so intense it actually travels through dark matter and as a result makes sound 0.o

    also its science-fiction and sound helps make the game feel more complete
     

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