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Thoughts on Space Gardening!

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by Gigafreak, Dec 9, 2013.

  1. Gigafreak

    Gigafreak Starship Captain

    I realize that gardening yields probably haven't been balanced yet, but I figure I'll point out some of the imbalances that I'm seeing so far, that they might be addressed when it's time to balance gardening.

    Most crops yield 1-2 seeds for themselves... usually just 1. This makes it very difficult to expand a garden, as you have to pray you get a double-seed drop. An organism that only gives one offspring before dying doesn't sound evolutionarily viable either.

    2-tile-wide crops have no advantage over 1-tile-wide crops. Consider having 2-tile crops yield more food and Plant Fibre drops than a 1-tile crop... possibly disproportionately more.

    Crop growth times are all over the place. I've got Oculemon seeds that haven't grown past the initial sprout phase while I've gone through three or four full plant-harvest-and-replant cycles of rice stalks sitting next to them. (Also, Rice is probably the best crop in the game right now for its relatively fast growth, 1-tile width, and multi-food-drop yields... and those food drops seem to be no less filling than any other.)

    Speaking of Oculemons and species-specific crops, they probably need to have an advantage over other crops to balance their exclusivity. Oculemons, at least, are used in crafting furniture. (Not that I'll ever be able to fully grow an Oculemon, with its bonkers growth time. Nor will I really want to build furniture that stares at me... well, it might be amusing to deck out my whole ship in eyeball furniture and then invite my friends to my ship just to freak them right out.)

    Is there a way to expand the spaceship yet? I'd like more room to plant more crops. Planting them planetside means having to spend fuel returning to the planet in question if I want to go gather ore and pixels elsewhere. Or standing around bored out of my mind before I'm ready to leave because I'm literally watching plants grow.

    Boneboo plants found on planets yield bones but no seeds. Boneboo plants grown from seeds (I started with a few seeds in storage) yield seeds but no bones.

    Apple Pie still has those effects attached to it from when you were testing status buffs and debuffs. Eating a slice of pie will give me rapid health regeneration and also set me on fire. (What kind of apples are IN these things!?)

    Plants grown under low ceilings can clip through the ceiling in question. At least, tall plants such as Automatoes and Boneboo overlapped the ceiling of my ship when grown with a mere two empty tiles between the soil and the ceiling.

    I'll post more if I think of anything. Waiting for the damage rebalancing patch and accompanying save file resets before I give opinions on that.
     
  2. colorfulcoma

    colorfulcoma Space Hobo

    Eating black current crumble causes a full game crash for me haha
     
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  3. Darxio

    Darxio Intergalactic Tourist

    I grow boltbulbs in space since they grow really fast AND only take up 1 block each.

    If they ever become toxic to non-Glitch(Since they're a metal-like food), I'll probably switch to potatoes(Also decently fast growth and 1 block each). Or some crop with a good recipe that isn't toxic to humans(Or my race of choice at the time). This is under the presumption that those descriptions that call things bad for all except a certain race eventually comes true.
     
  4. Serenity

    Serenity The Waste of Time

    I agree hopefully the seed yield is increased.
     
  5. Modoken

    Modoken Hey, You!

    A tip for seeds. They can be scanned by your 3d printer, then you can purchase as many as you'd like for a few pixels! So all you need really is to find one seed for each plant you want to grow.

    Also, I'm not sure about this, but I think there may be certain growing conditions for each plant (and if not, perhaps there should be, for instance: occulemons can only grow on a certain type of block, or need to be within x blocks of a water source)
     
  6. Gigafreak

    Gigafreak Starship Captain

    If memory serves, the Glitch-exclusive food is Currentcorn... or so the description says. I haven't tried eating another species' food, due to fear of losing Pixels via death by food poisoning.

    I've seen species-exclusive crops for Glitch (Currentcorn), Floran (Oculemon), Apex (Banana), and Hylotl (Coralcreeper). I don't remember seeing exclusive foods for Human and Avian, now that I think of it.
     
  7. Mansen

    Mansen Subatomic Cosmonaut

    I hope we'll see hydroponic pots at some point - It just feels wrong to have actual dirt tiles in your spaceship and growing wheat in a miniature field.
     
  8. Darxio

    Darxio Intergalactic Tourist

    I saw the Avian food yesterday, but I forget what it was off the top of my head. Have not personally seen a human exclusive food(Wheat/Bread isn't iirc).

    The reason I think Boltbulbs will be a glitch food, even without the description, is because they're farmed by glitch AND are metal just like currentcorn(As are dioda's and automatoes). I could be completely wrong but it's a fair chance they will be glitch exclusive(With some other foods also being a bit race exclusive).
     
  9. Gigafreak

    Gigafreak Starship Captain

    If Humans don't have an exclusive food, it seems kinda like they got the short end of the racial-bonus stick.

    ...Are racial armor bonuses even implemented yet, I wonder...
     
  10. Mansen

    Mansen Subatomic Cosmonaut

    The armour? Yes. The bonuses? No.
     
  11. Lexmechanic

    Lexmechanic Void-Bound Voyager

    The exclusive human crop is chili.
     
  12. Gigafreak

    Gigafreak Starship Captain

    Then the humans are more prepared for a zombie apocalypse than the other species.

    ...Too bad it was tentacles that ruined their homeworld instead.
     

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