This game has become near-impossible to start

Whenever you feel the urge to post, think twice.
Some people paid for the game not knowing it was supposed to be for "hardcore" players only.
As a terraria like, i think people expected the same kind of difficulty.
So yeah maybe people find the game difficult, and yes, the dev should listen to them to be able to deliver a smooth gameplay for everyone.
You could keep your hardcore mode while casual player could still play.

I don't understand this philosophy of having a game barely playable just for the sake of being one of the hardcore players that plays it...

 

Nobody seems to want to give advice so:

So the bird thing was bad luck. They suck, but are avoidable generally. The same is generally true of large groups of mobs, try going the other way and see if that's a bit sparser or try approaching slowly to draw one off at a time. If the planet just seems to be throwing birds and huge groups at you constantly, you may want to just start a new character. From what I've seen, planets seem to have slightly differing spawn rates of hostile/peaceful mobs.

I've had really bad luck with copper so far. I scrapped my first character because she started on a planet with almost no copper and very little coal. There were no other planets in the system to travel to. My second character finally got enough copper for a full set of armor... after four different planets. So make sure you start in a system with some options. Get a pickax and an axe first, then try to get enough coal to get to another planet. If you're having too hard a time doing that, try a new character. You may also just want to put it down for a few days until it's rebalanced.

 

Because there's no inherent dishonesty in believing you're the best player, and anyone who is having less difficulty than you must be lying. Or "fronting". Whatever that is. Front mission?

 

You assume I'm having difficulty.

I'm not.

The difference is I'm not blind to issues like shields being useless, combat being limited to only one effective play style (two if you hunt down a gun), etc. etc. Nor do I assume anyone having more trouble than me lacks a valid complaint.

I assume you're fronting, because if you were REALLY as good as you say, you wouldn't feel the need to stomp all over other people's self-esteem with vacuous arguments about how bad they are.

 

Aye but on these forums far as I can tell flinging insults around for whatever reason is generally frowned upon. I know of one game forum where it's practically encouraged mind you and I just laugh when I see it there but stil.


EDIT:

Never has a more true phrase been uttered although I would imagine the devs do wanna minimize this at least in the early game.

 

The fatal flaw in what argument? I said both sides have a right to their opinions. We just also have a right to voice ours without having them dismissed as "u just suk" posts as you seem to like referring to them as. Great attitude there.

Just because people point out that you cannot do something doesn't mean they are insulting you. Saying they can do it doesn't mean they are bragging and trying to make you feel like shit. They are giving feedback the same as you, and it's just as important to hear the side of someone that doesn't think it's too hard nor wants it made easier as it is the person that thinks it's too hard. I don't find all of your complaints anything close to near impossible to deal with it. So from my point of view there's nothing wrong with the difficulty. Sorry if you don't like that but you could practice what you preach a bit and stop jumping to conclusions about everyone that disagrees with you.

As for your last point sure, but why not an easy mode instead of a "hard" mode and just leave default how it is?

 

Like Sikelh here. He seems to have a handle on things. Doesn't insult other people. Explains how to do things. Tries to be helpful.

Sikelh I don't think is simply stroking his own ego.

 

My problem with 99% of posts about it being too hard are because they remind me of people like this in real life.

Go do x.
Looks at x.
I DONT KNOW HOW TO DO IT!
Read the instructions.
WHY DON"T YOU JUST SHOW ME YOU FING LOSER!
The instructions are right next to you.
IT IS TOO HARD!

Most of the complaints but not all about it being too hard are from people who want everything the easy way with nothing done on their part. Maybe if they put a tiny bit of effort into learning the game they might find it is no where near as hard as they think it is.

 

I looked at your post history, you've posted several times that you've had difficulties with the new changes.
Like your entire spew about character growth not feeling substantial enough from earlier today. That you kindly dodged repeatedly when I asked you to provide some kind of example of what balanced growth would be.

No ones "fronting". You're just not very good. That's not a bad thing. It's not an insult to be bad at something. It just means you need practice.

 

And did I say I died a lot?

Did I say I was going to quit?

Did I say I was having trouble killing enemies?

Pretty sure I said none of that. I said character progression across, at least, the first tier was negligible. And it is. You take about the same damage in full iron as you do in your starting clothes, your hp bonus in starting clothes is roughly equivalent (if not better than, too lazy to check) copper, and your DPS hardly moves.

That doesn't mean I wasn't able to deal with it. It simply means that people who do have trouble dealing with it have valid complaints.

As for actual growth? Maybe have enemies do noticeably less damage, so that when you're fully geared, underground enemies hit you roughly as hard as surface enemies do when you're fresh? That'd be a start.

Edit: And you still haven't addressed the whole 'only one viable play style is left' now, thing.

 

And I'm pretty sure I never asked if you died a lot, or if you were going to quit.

Why are you going off on tangents that have nothing to do with the subject matter?
No one stated that you said those things. Are you "fronting" now?

So you're not very good. It's fine. I've been playing games for 28 years. It's just practice.
Practicing will let you dodge these terrible monsters that eat your face, making it far easier to kill them. In turn, making the game itself a lot easier.

 

Finally I feel we are getting somewhere i now feel a difficulty factor to progression and exploration .

As for Mobs are to hard on starter planet. Okay I have not seen a mob that i cant kill with either Hunting Knife (awesome knockback ) , Or Bow . So what if it takes time to kill something at least it is not cheese leeroy jenkins anymore.

Coal shortage Mobility and Torches . I do think this needs a little love and care either , Solutions more torches per craft , More coal or expensive wood > fuel ie Charcoal Blocks 20 wood = 2 fuel (Some tier 1 planets have more gold than coal )

Im not saying the patch if perfect but having fun and feel its going in the right direction.

 

I'm not trying to sound like a douche bag here, but I would like to point out the fact that the game is still in early beta so things like the shields not working, or things being a little bit too difficult are to be expected, I am sure when the final game actually comes out it will be easier, and actually have different difficulty modes. until then why not try installing a mod to make things a little easier

 

i think its just the birds not really anyway to fight them at the start that wont get you killed. untill i got a gun they killed me every time i walked out noramly from a place i couldnt see them and i wouldnt know i was even in a fight till i was at the revive screen. they need to nerf them and de-aggro them cus well.... they are just birds not the bosses no reason for them to deal so much in one hit

 

to everyone saying change your play style ... i call bullshit ... so YOU got lucky on a planet full of ore and made it to T2 or 3 in mere hours , some are not so lucky ... i rolled 2 characters yesterday , one was on a planet FULL of ore while the other one could barely find COAL let alone GOLD and SILVER <_<

i accept the argument that it's a beta , but don't attack the person just because you got lucky with your play session

 

We are trying to let the devs know that the game is hard right now.

 

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This. And people saying simply "Get better" don't help the devs. All it does is drown out the valid points about slow progression and equipment that doesn't work at all.

 

Tier 1. Starting planet. Wearing only copper boots. Didn't really need those, since they don't seem to really do anything anyways.

And others, like me, are trying to say it's not. You're blowing it out of proportion significantly with a massive knee jerk reaction to changes that will inevitably make the game worse if the patch response is of the same caliber.

Unless the game isn't actually hard, and *you're* just not very good. If you balance games around players being bad at the games, when those people inevitably get enough practice to stop being bad the games become meaningless in the mid game. This isn't rocket science.

 

Admits armor does nothing.

Sees no reason that this should be addressed.

Welp.

 

And again, I don't recall ever saying armor shouldn't be fixed. Feel free to point that out.
The fact the game is still stupidly easy without ANY functional armor should be telling you something about your own skill.