Things people want

Look anyone could get the kind of diploma you got, but in this thread full of Masters and PhD graduates, a GED ain't nothing to talk about, mostly if it was in game theory.
What you are thinking about is an alpha, a beta is literally a game that is feature complete, and there is nothing but bugs to fix. How would I put it for you to understand.

This game, if it were beta, like a real beta as you keep screaming it is. Then it is done, and the only thing left is to do some bug fixes and light tweaks before it is released.
What you mean to say is that this game is ALPHA, if it is supposedly gonna receive ALL THESE MASSIVE CHANGES you speak of.

Better yet, what if we remove the word Beta from Starbound entirely, I'd say its pretty much "feature complete" I simply just hope that this "Beta" is more of your misunderstood use of it, than my correct use of it.

No no no, I don't mean that simply because there are modders that the developers dead stop on the game, HiRez does that though, but what I mean is that I don't want a game to rely on modders to get it to live up to what it could be simply because developers can sometimes be lazy. How can Bethesda make the games they do while seeing modders make better models and content?

Thank you, I mean I'm aware they are actually working on this game and are literally still working on the game, and I'm glad this is actually a real alpha/beta testing thing. Still doesn't mean they can't aim low.

 

And which is partly why i posted this

 

1.Your insults mean nothing I hope you realise, this is the internet.

2. Completely wrong. You obviously don't grasp the understanding of beta, each company also defines beta differently; so this further extends my point that you haven't been following the developers, as they posted their definition of beta in broad daylight.

It's not feature complete even remotely, and is still development and bug testing. You obviously, once again, misunderstand the entire point and term of "beta".

 

So to put it simply, you have massive distrust of these developers because some devs are bad.
Yeah, I'm done here.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle


"Beta, named after the second letter of the Greek alphabet, is the software development phase following alpha. It generally begins when the software is feature complete. Software in the beta phase will generally have many more bugs in it than completed software, as well as speed/performance issues and may still cause crashes or data loss. The focus of beta testing is reducing impacts to users, often incorporating usability testing. The process of delivering a beta version to the users is called beta release and this is typically the first time that the software is available outside of the organization that developed it."

 

tl;dr

This post (as in the one I have posted) is a joke. Meaning that in no way does anyone have to post a tl;dr because if you can't read a post then you can't play Starbound. kbai

 

No I understand what I bought, I was simply stating I HOPE THIS GAME DOES ALL THE AMAZING THINGS IT COULD.

That's really it, I didn't say "WHY ISN'T THIS GAME FILLED WITH FEATURES"

I was asking how do I know it will ever get these features, I know people would like to see things implemented.

Then I got showered by these Beta apologists or something, like Alpha isn't a term used anymore because it is racist to use it, there were some people who actually honestly understood what I was saying.

Someone pointed out there is an actual stream where they answer questions or something, I didn't know of this, and I'm grateful that they get my hopes up when I may only to find out it isn't really answering any questions.

However I am aware this game isn't done, and what I'm saying is "I hope it truly isn't anywhere near being done" because you all made it clear you don't know what is or isn't going to happen to this game, but want to believe ALL OF IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN without question and if someone dare question your thinking he is a troll.

 

Alpha isn't the correct term to use, because alpha software is horrible bug ridden, unplayable crap. By definition, and experience.
I write software, and when I pass software to non-programmers, I explain what alpha means before I send ANYTHING.


Bolded vs underlined statement.

 

Well thank you then, I am used to beta being the finishing touches and not the game building stages, but I guess the times has changed.

 

ANGRILY CAPITALIZED

I HOPE YOU ARE HURT BY MY BIG LETTERS

I was saying that I don't want a lacking product requiring modding to fix it in the end.

No I am not angry, nor insulted.

I was really just trying to have a conversation here, but everyone jumped to conclusions about what I was saying.

 

Rentago!

I bought Dead Island, BRINK, RAGE, Skyrim, Knights of the old Republic, on day one. I'm quite used to developers being unable to hold to their promises because they were too big, or because their games were too complex to work out. In retrospect, looking back on most of those games and seeing how their staff was operating in the time before release shows that how the devs operate is a pretty good indicator of what they'll be able own up to.

After seeing Starbound's devs at work, I'm not worried at all. What's more, like you suggested, they seem to make use of mods that people have been making, and mentioning where they got 'em from, like those lamps they just released.

As for what BETA means, Well. I doubt there's any need to stick to any specific meaning for it. What we've got is access to the game before it's truly released, as well as the unique opprtunity to add our own input into what's in the final product. As someone who didn't pay for the high-tier content-creating kickstarter contributions, I would say it's a pretty good deal.

Besides, they could best use directed feedback. Feedback on the beginning of the game, world and monster levels, as well as basic crafting. We know they have stuff that they're not releasing yet, but for good reason. I mean, If I were a developer, I wouldn't give all of what I have at once, so early in the beta. All the of the updates would be so boring, then. Not to say that's what they're doing, but there is a certain logic to focusing a beta, so as to get the best results.

All in all, keep posting what you want, but don't worry too much about how it'll be in the end. I think Starbound is is good hands.

 

You don't. We done here?

 

You, you there, you are great, you understand.

Thank you, I am worried because of recent trends, I didn't say these guys are doing just that, but that I would be sad if they ended up doing what so many have done.

I do like this game, I want to see it go far.

People seem to think I am hating this game or upset at it.

Maybe it was my wording, I was implying other companies and what has happened with others, I wasn't saying that this company has done bad, but that I would hate for them to do bad things later on.

That I don't want modders to pick up the slack where something falls short, but if they do a good job I don't know why they can't implement it officially and just give them credit, not because this is what is happening here, but what so many games do that where they just finish the core game and then leave it up in the air as an unfinished product requiring a dedicated modding community to fix.

I want this game to come feature complete by the time it is ready to come out of beta and I just hope people aren't going to form a hug box. I want people to give feedback when necessary to help this game move along.

 

You can question the direction the game is taking, just be calm and rational for god's sake

 

Just imagine if we could've given feedback to SPORE's devs before they butchered it, eh?

 

Not really.
Alpha: You build the basic systems, like graphical rendering, movement, collision detection, etc.
Beta: After that, you add in the additional things, like grass grazing, and so on.


Alpha is the essentials, beta is the polishing.
That's pretty much the way it's always been, just game design is slightly different, in that you don't need all the features for the program to be usable.

EA?!? LISTEN TO MERE PURCHASE PEONS?!?!?

HOW DARE YOU, FOOLISH PURCHASE PEON!?!?!?!?!

/EA impression

 

This is off-topic, but as much as people say dead island is bad, I do quite enjoy it as dumb fun.
Not sure whats your beef with skyrim, but to each his own.

 

Dead island was horrendously terrible as for how it was put together. Gods, did you ever watch your own shadow while doing things? The roughness of it all really shows off in multiplayer. That said, You're right. It's still dumb fun, and I had a great time with it. However, some of my friends were put off by what was advertised vs what was delivered, and didn't want to play it for long.

As for Skyrim, it's a pretty specific thing I'm thinking of when I mention it. Before release, they mentioned that they were given free-time to develop and implement whatever they liked. We saw little to none of this. On top of that, most people that I know can't bring themselves to play vanilla Skyrim due to textures being horribly wrapped onto trees, or because of some filter being all about browns. I'm not sure of the specifics on that, but there's been a lot of work put into bringing Skyrim up to people's standards.

 

If I were to take a jab, it would be that Skyrim literally took Oblivion and removed content. Being a game that comes with less per sequel than more.

And then if you want to you can compare oblivion to morrowind.

Not that you can't have fun playing some games, but it certainly was far from the mark that it should have hit, like dead island.


But looking at a movie, when james cameron has a bench mark so high, so expected of, he made avatar, which was nowhere near it, I guess its expectation like, "IT CAN ONLY GET BETTER FROM HERE" and somehow you end up with less and it can seem kind of like a dream being let down.

 

I really wasn't going to get into that because it really comes down to personal preference. I am not a fan of how they simplified it, but if they're truly trying to broaden their audience, I can see why they did it.

I hope that starbound, on the other hand, continues to grow in complexity. It's much more awesome that way, I think.