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The Unsolvable "Terraria Lag"

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by NightFire, Dec 7, 2013.

  1. Doom-Slayer

    Doom-Slayer Star Wrangler

    Starbound has big optimization issues with xp, its being fixed. Surprised nobody mentioned this...
     
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  2. DrVoodoo

    DrVoodoo Cosmic Narwhal

    Hmm... Well, Starbound runs pretty well even on my AMD Athlon II x2 250, gt440 1gb ddr3, 8gb ram. BUT! In Glitch castles fps drops from 35-50 to 10-15. Now i'm uncertain, is that because of lighting, or some other things, that i can't figure out?
    P.S. Sorry for bad English.
     
  3. NeoDeltaI

    NeoDeltaI Tentacle Wrangler

    The SNES had one architecture to code against, making optimization relatively straight-forward (PCs could have any number of hardware configurations), and it didn't have other processes running in the background. It was only running the game. You might as well argue a toaster should heat your house faster because it's hotter than the radiator. (Edit: Not to mention, Super Mario World != Starbound in complexity.) Like NeroAngelo and other have explained, start looking at what might be slowing your computer down (which specs should be able to run this game fine) before accusing the developers of not knowing what they're doing.
     
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  4. Nexusv

    Nexusv Void-Bound Voyager

    It seems to lag like that because of mobs; I've cleared out a glitch castle and the lag dropped with pretty much every kill, though it was still a little more laggy than normal.
     
  5. Linio

    Linio Big Damn Hero

    I won't be posting too much in this topic because i don't want to troll, and the point i was making was about Terraria not SB, i'm pretty sure it's not exactly the place to do this (then again there's Terraria in the title of this thread so...?).
    But let's face it, there was a huge drop in performance between 1.1 and 1.2 of Terraria, without a huge upgrade in game complexity or anything.
    I'm a developer, i know what it cost to do a game, and wasn't seriously comparing Super Mario to Terraria (although it could do some good sometimes) but let's face it, i've seen the code of Terraria, it's laughable. So much so that it's actually (ironically) impressive that it does work so well in the end.

    I'm pretty hopeful that the Starbound guys will do what is needed to make the game work ok, and hopefully every iteration of the game won't add more laggyness...
     
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  6. Yazuak

    Yazuak Orbital Explorer

    Getting back to OP's original questions, sounds like your GPU might be overheating or something. When was the last time you cleaned out your comp?
     
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  7. NightFire

    NightFire Parsec Taste Tester

    Well... It's a laptop so it doesn't need that much cleaning

    Anyways the official fix should be coming out today so it might lag less
    And I'm always playing in full screen ;) less lag that way and I delete the explorer.exe also I don't have any options in starbound to "disable v-sync" I have a configuration file for that but it doesn't work lol
     
  8. Armchairwiggles

    Armchairwiggles Space Hobo

    Pretty funny that people always default to the "your computer must be trash!" response.

    There is no question that the game is poorly optimized i have 12gb ram 3.2 i7 quad with 3gb vram and I still lag in dungeons.

    The response people should default to is that its a beta and it will be fixed when it can be.
     
  9. NightFire

    NightFire Parsec Taste Tester

    Actually i would say this game is greatly optimized for it still being in the beta stage
    I will admit my pc is trash by now and as 2014 hits it will be making it's 8th year on this world still working lol

    Like i said i get less lag then Terraria... at times lol when i'm moving hysterically around.... like in temples or dungeons it will start to lag lol Rain is where it gets patchy

    meh at night I'm still loving the game though
    right now i'm going to test if MSI afterburner makes a difference... I may have 1 or 2 results.... it's either going to work.... or i'm going to get a blue screen.... wish me luck
     
  10. Anrj

    Anrj Space Spelunker

    I noticed the lag cycles on my Win7 as well, usually within the first hour of playing. When I use Ubuntu, I can go hours without any noticeable lag. Try ending any non-essential processes to free up more resources.
     
  11. NightFire

    NightFire Parsec Taste Tester

    Doesn't work
    I would like to say my computer is... In the twilight zone

    The more processes I clear up the more it lags however the more stuff I run it lags less... Or it just completely doesn't want to try

    Also :D I'm happy to report that the MSI afterburner actually does work
    I saw great improvement
    Use at your own risk though
    It does tamper with your computer and may cause a BSOD or worse
     
  12. NeroAngelo

    NeroAngelo Phantasmal Quasar

    isn't afterburner an OC tool ? :) be careful with that on a laptop hehe
     
  13. NightFire

    NightFire Parsec Taste Tester

    It is but what ever you over clock at that time isn't permanent
    That's also why whenever I recommend it I caution people before using it
     
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  14. AnonTheMouse

    AnonTheMouse Industrial Terraformer

    Not everybody keeps a couple thousand dollars just laying around. Nor should people have to put down that much extra on a game that alleges it will be able to run on older hardware. So, unless you're offering to pay for that "better computer", this is not only not helpful advice, it's borderline trolling.
     
  15. LazerusKI

    LazerusKI Phantasmal Quasar

    normally i would say "dont play on your toaster" but hey, its beta, and the minority of beta games is optimized.

    so far i have absolutely no problems, no fps drops, lags...nothing.
    CPU: i5 2500k - OC 4Ghz
    Graphic: GTX560Ti
    RAM: 4Gb DDR3 @1333Mhz

    btw
    oooh...you are so wrong. every single part with air-cooling eats dust over time, it does not magically disappear into the void. if your GPU has active cooling - dismantle it - clean it
    [​IMG]
    this is a picture of my old card (9800GT AMP), from the outside it was clean, but it had 100°C, so i dismantled the cover and found thi, ok its not a laptop card, but it shows what i mean. only because you think it is clean does not mean that it really is clean.
    CPU thermalpaste the same, most people dont care about it, i had a few PCs, Laptops and Desktop, where the paste was like concrete, we needed to break the cpu off the cooler to clean it, the paste was so dry that we could scratch it away like one of the lottery tickets

    its always the same...people want to play everything, but dont want to spend money to fit the requirements.
    your comment is the one that is not helpfull, IF (just IF) his system is too old to play simple games (from todays view), then he needs a better system. I cant see a post where NightFire posts his system speccs, so, how do you know that his system is not from the late 90s? Ok, he mentioned that his Laptop is 8 years old, so it would nearly fit, but still: we have no exact specification what he uses. On my old laptop (dont even know how old it is) i cant even open Firefox instantly, because the Singlecore CPU is trash and the HDD is full.
    You dont even need thousands of $ to buy a decent computer, thats just EPEEN measurement

    So, information for the future:
    post your exact system specifications or risk a flamewar about "buy a new system noob".
    you wont get help without informations.
     
    Last edited: Dec 9, 2013
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  16. Pinkie Pie

    Pinkie Pie Cosmic Narwhal

    You can get a computer that could run most (if not all) current games on the highest settings for 500-800 dollars.

    It's not like I was being completely serious when I said that either, but hey, what was I expecting on the internet.
     
  17. NightFire

    NightFire Parsec Taste Tester

    Ugh you reminded me of a project i had to do for my tech class a long time ago.... i still have it on my flash drive lol
    man that teacher annoyed me

    So what he said was:
    I want this class to build a computer... your spending limit is 500$ and it has to run BF3 on high graphics with 50 fps
    I was like
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    no
    but i did it anyway and it seemed to have worked (by build he meant shop online but don't actually buy it)

    Also after this being fixed for me at least and after i get my new PC the next item i must save up for is pair of space goggles
     
    Last edited: Dec 9, 2013
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  18. DrVoodoo

    DrVoodoo Cosmic Narwhal

    No, not mobs. I've killed all of glitches, but this didn't improved fps. Absolutely.
     
  19. karl

    karl Orbital Explorer

    Just upgraded a PC so have 2 different computers running into the same slowdown issues when high amount of mobs on screen.

    1st comp
    ATI 5780
    c2d 8600
    8 gig mem
    NON SSD
    windows 7

    2nd comp
    780 ti
    4770k haswell
    32 gig mem
    SSD
    windows 8.1

    This test sample indicates the issue is NOT hardware related. Especially the second pc.
     
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2013
  20. shibdib

    shibdib Starship Captain

    Noticed on my server that the spikes aren't in cpu/memory/network. The spikes (and I assume lag) seem to be occuring in HD read/write.
     

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