The Penguin Syndicate XVI - [GAME OVER]

Discussion in 'Forum Games' started by Zebe, Jul 6, 2017.

  1. KingofDominaria

    KingofDominaria Space Hobo

    Again dyachei,

    I can and do deny what you assert concerning Jim's quality. He came into the game with a good post that gave me a town read on him. He had plenty of quality content even though he skimmed. The only thing I disliked from him, as I pointed out earlier, was his getting a feel for something rather than pushing with his gut (the 611 example).

    Now for something else: Are you hung up on how he read you for two posts like you mentioned earlier in the thread? Because if that is the case, I'd say you're being pretty biased against him. I've certainly got a vastly different view of him than you do, and I'm not focused on one thing concerning him when I read his posts. You should do likewise in stepping back and not focusing on one particular thing when considering his content least it taint your perspective.
     
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  2. Secondhand Revenant

    Secondhand Revenant Aquatic Astronaut

    What's this about me jumping on lynching void? Quote what gave you that impression
     
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  3. 611

    611 Subatomic Cosmonaut

    611 - Moi.
    CjBeats - I agree with an assessment of neutral, however, it isn't a particularly strong read from the stance that I'm coming from.
    @Jake9039 - Few posts, come post more for me buddy, so I can pick on you.
    Alkanthe - I'm going to stick with my initial read of scum for now, because I really have a bad feeling about this. Plus, Dom the mafia silver goo vibes.
    Secondhand Revenant - Mmmmmmm a lot of people calling him scum, don't really know that I agree with that assessment. I feel like he's rooting around and spreading suspicions everywhere to see what cracks and what sticks - similar to how I have a tendency to pressure one thing and see if it snaps. Only, he's putting less into more. I'd like to see if this blossoms before giving a full read.
    dyachei - Town read now. None of your business why right now, I'm just liking where she's going.
    voiditect - Null.
    Jimlad 42 - Null.
    .Fable. - I nearly said null, and then I realized you've actually posted some, and I'd actually paid enough attention to it, just not clicked it onto you.
    PsychoSoldier - What a lovely WOT to read. It was a pleasure, and I look forward to reading more. Soon. Please?
    Peacheon - *frollics in the daisies waiting for her to post her mega post*
    KingofDominaria - I feel like I'm sitting in a square room, with steel walls. Yes that's exactly how I would describe my read of you. You've got a very linear feeling playstyle. And I'm not sure if I like the feel for it. It reminds me of my first rubik's cube, when I didn't think to keep the instructions for how to solve it. It felt evil, but there was a lot of power in that stupid block of plastic.
    FranticLibra - I'm getting VI vibes off of him this game. Kinda like last game, actually....
    @Dragonclaw - You need ta post my brutha.

    Now, I just need to think on threads, and start extracting things.

    On a whim, I would say that the people most likely to be in group PMs right now based purely on how they've voted and acted are me and Frantic, CJ and Jake, Alk and KOD (but on the other hand, I could easily believe that one of them is neutral evil and the other is town)...

    Actually.

    Alkane, Jake, and Fable are the penguins.

    Boom.

    Done.

    That is my declaration.
     
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  4. dyachei

    dyachei Space Hobo

    i don't think the majority of his reads were quality. I think they were all pretty shallow. So I'm not just hung up on his read of me, though that's a good example of why I think his reads are low quality at the moment

    I don't know the guy. He was null reading me. Why would I be biased?
     
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  5. Secondhand Revenant

    Secondhand Revenant Aquatic Astronaut

    Because I think it just doesn't mean anything either way
     
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  6. 611

    611 Subatomic Cosmonaut

    Why?
     
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  7. Secondhand Revenant

    Secondhand Revenant Aquatic Astronaut

    Okay, so what if they've been few? Do you expect more posts than that from me for some reason? If so, why?

    Well, do you generally think putting a spin on things is positive? He's ignoring the point I actually made in favor of one that no one cared about. I care that Jim's impression appeared to be made up, that it was inaccurate about what actually happened. He's going on as if what people cared about was Jim lacking an impression on dya/fable, which no one mentioned unless I've since forgotten it.

    Okay, can you summarize the points of his case for me?

    Because as far as I can tell his case is: 611 was aggressive.

    Other than that is his talk of distancing which appears to be based on history that involved you and Jim, not 611 at all. So no, that's not a good thing, nor is it a solid case. The distancing part of his post doesn't even apply unless he's calling you both penguins. So tell me, what part of that is a good thing or a solid case? None of it is. It is merely noting that he is aggressive which doesn't actually mean he's likely to be mafia at all.

    And what's your point? He's talking about them as if they were interacting. They did not because Fable was not present. It seems pretty fake.

    Why didn't you ask if you cared about that? You seem to have chosen to jump on me as a matter of opportunity rather than actually investigating anything.

    Okay, why didn't you comment on this earlier? Is there a reason you're ignoring the part where I say it's actually probably nothing? You spoke to me about it earlier but seemed to have no impression then

    Okay and this one I really want an answer for. So what if it was noncommittal? Someone asked me about something that I didn't have an opinion on. Is there a reason it shouldn't be noncommittal? It feels like your investigation here is surface level. If you actually were looking at it impartially you'd notice that it was merely a response to something someone asked me. There's hedging, but this isn't it and that should be obvious if you check why I said it.

    Okay, so this sounds like your opening isn't really true. Hard to say? Had a hunch? Seems like you thought you had more than that.
     
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  8. Secondhand Revenant

    Secondhand Revenant Aquatic Astronaut

    Stop asking questions just to ask questions, not gonna entertain that nonsense
     
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  9. 611

    611 Subatomic Cosmonaut

    Yes, but why do you not think it means anything?

    What constitutes a post or statement that holds no meaning? What is the basis for that?
     
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  10. Secondhand Revenant

    Secondhand Revenant Aquatic Astronaut

    So what if he skimmed a lot? His impression seems pretty fake. You're defending him hard for nothing. People not posting a lot or at all should leave a more accurate impression, not something made up

    No, the fake shift in the middle where you go from "I'm gonna put SR as scum, no wait actually I'll double down and vote him!'. It's pure performance, not a real shift in thought
     
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  11. 611

    611 Subatomic Cosmonaut

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  12. Secondhand Revenant

    Secondhand Revenant Aquatic Astronaut

    ...

    The default is something has no meaning unless there's some reason to think it means something. So your questions are nonsensical
     
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  13. 611

    611 Subatomic Cosmonaut

    Really?
    So something has zero meaning unless the meaning is assigned to it by another, thus creating value? Is that what you are saying?
     
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  14. Secondhand Revenant

    Secondhand Revenant Aquatic Astronaut

    No, that sounds like you're getting into some kind of philosophical stuff when I'm talking about a game of mafia...

    A post isn't wolfy or towny unless there's a reason for it to be wolf or for it to be towny. I see neither indication in that case so I don't have an opinion of it
     
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  15. Secondhand Revenant

    Secondhand Revenant Aquatic Astronaut

    The question "Why" doesn't make any sense when someone says they don't have an opinion on something unless you think there's a reason they should. So asking why repeatedly is going to get you nowhere unless you offer me some reason that you think it shouldn't be neutral.
     
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  16. CjBeats

    CjBeats Weight of the Sky

    Why?
     
  17. Secondhand Revenant

    Secondhand Revenant Aquatic Astronaut

    LOL
     
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  18. 611

    611 Subatomic Cosmonaut

    Ah, I see. That clears things up some, thank you.
     
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  19. 611

    611 Subatomic Cosmonaut

    I toyed with that too, but i wanted an actual answer
     
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  20. Secondhand Revenant

    Secondhand Revenant Aquatic Astronaut

    Reminds me, liked cj better since the reads drop on the last page
     
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