The Penguin Syndicate IX - [GAME OVER]

Discussion in 'Forum Games' started by Zebe, May 27, 2016.

  1. HunterC1998

    HunterC1998 Cosmos Killer

  2. zeskorion

    zeskorion Oxygen Tank

    If you're gonna play that way, at least spell my name right. I am not from zeskor
     
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  3. Arra

    Arra The End of Time

    Welp.
     
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  4. 611

    611 Subatomic Cosmonaut

    You were more productive last time.

    VOTE: Arra
     
  5. Arra

    Arra The End of Time

    Hey, I'm doing family stuff, can't get on here much.
     
  6. MilkCalf

    MilkCalf Supernova

    Uh guys? Can we not do this "lynch the person who coughs the loudest" thing. Why don't we actually look for evidence so that we don't end up killing a bunch of civs again?
     
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  7. Zebe

    Zebe Space Kumquat

    hasn't been long but here's a count

    // ♢♢ \\
    7 votes are enough for a lynch.
    Not Voting
    - Arra, MilkCalf, Rgbunpro, Miracle Panda-sama, Firepaw Da Cat, quitaren12, Dragonclaw, Jareix Cryvix, Jirky-Kake, Zetlin97, Danger100ish, The Squid, Dras, zeskorion, Gilgamesh025
    Arra - 611
    zeskorion - HunterC1998
    \\ //

    Edit: fixed an error.
     
    Last edited: May 31, 2016
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  8. 611

    611 Subatomic Cosmonaut

    So you are saying we shouldn't apply pressure to a variety of people to see what comes up?

    Because that's a rather scummy thing to say, as really only scum has anything to gain from not having a RVS.

    Vote: MilkCalf
     
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  9. 611

    611 Subatomic Cosmonaut

    Danger, stop lurking and post.

    I know you better than that.
     
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  10. Danger100ish

    Danger100ish Tentacle Wrangler

    Vote: Mitochon- oh wait, he's not in this game?
    Alright, 611 will have to do
    Vote: 611
    That's what we're doing :)

    Also a note for the mods, despite the tag limit, in my forum, and on all XenForo-based forums, I'd assume, you can give an unlimited number of people an alert by putting their quotes in your post. If it gets too spammy, you can edit out the quotes later and they'll still receive an alert.
     
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  11. Danger100ish

    Danger100ish Tentacle Wrangler

    Gimme a chance, nerd, I was trying to start a bandwagon on you ;P
     
  12. Dragonclaw

    Dragonclaw Supernova

    That was honestly the worst possible timing ever. And since there is no proof of anyone being part of the Penguin Syndicate, I'm gonna do this. I have to say it's not a good idea to kill everyone in the room without reason.
    VOTE: NO VOTE
     
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  13. 611

    611 Subatomic Cosmonaut


    Oh please do.

    (And a word of warning, you're probably gonna get fussed at for that double post.)
     
  14. Danger100ish

    Danger100ish Tentacle Wrangler

    We're allowed and expected to edit posts here? I read the rules, but I just assume that you weren't allowed to edit.
    @611 I'm lazy and on a phone, but can you run some calcs on whether no-lynch would help us in a 17-player game?
     
  15. Jirky-Kake

    Jirky-Kake Phantasmal Quasar

    I was never too much a fan of random lynching. That being said, "I'm going to vote Dragonclaw..."

    Just kidding. ;3

    Vote: No Vote
     
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  16. Dragonclaw

    Dragonclaw Supernova

    The most extreme option is that we all die, but that's a last resort thing. No one will win because no one will be alive to win.
     
  17. Jirky-Kake

    Jirky-Kake Phantasmal Quasar

    Although I wasn't asked, it's a 10/17 chance we lynch a civilian, or 58.8% chance. Almost a 50/50 on both sides, less favorable for the civilians.

    Excuse me, I'm counting 18 on the second vote board. I'm consistently editing this until I find out if it's just that I can't count or if there's someone who was added.

    Okay. It was that 611 was counted for twice. Nevermind!
     
    Last edited: May 31, 2016
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  18. 611

    611 Subatomic Cosmonaut

    Assuming @Zebe and @Miss Alkane are running a standard 3:1 setup, (That is, 3 town/benign neutrals for every 1 anti town) There should be about 6 anti town, and 11 town.

    As such, the chances of lynching an anti town in a purely random fashion are: 30%, which means that lynching a town is a 70% chance.

    However, RVS is an information stage, where you evaluate peoples reactions, interactions, and who they themselves push lynches on.

    As such, the most important part of this stage is remembering that you are being productively useless, by gathering intelligence and forming opinions at the earliest stages of the game.

    This is especially important in games with very few to no investigative roles, as knowing who is town and who is not town is dictated purely on how helpful people appear to be and actually are.

    Once you pass through the RVS, you typically have 1-3 good lynch candidates, based purely on the fact that they: tunnel, defend stupidly and blindly, give no defense (My personal favorite kind of defense), or overall give an anti-town vibe picked up on by other players.

    From this, even though you still have a raw chance of 70% of lynching town, you can learn a lot about who is scum based on bandwagon votes, true pushes.

    If you hit a scum first go, you can also learn more based on what feel like buses, or attempted misdirections pulling the lynch off of the subject.

    So while the RVS might not appear to be of any use initially, it serves as a baseplate for the entire game, as players establish alliances, understandings, and suspicions.

    Sure it sucks to be lynched D1, but in a way, it's a noble sacrifice for any side to take, as it unlocks the potential for lively, forward thinking discussion later on based on what people did during this period of discussion.

    EDIT: Fixed my math.
     
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  19. zeskorion

    zeskorion Oxygen Tank

    Hm. I'd say danger, hunter, dragonclaw strike out the most for me. And the pressure strat wont work if people know what you're doing
     
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  20. Alkanthe

    Alkanthe Supernova

    Zebe, Jirky pointed out that you counted 611 twice.
     
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