Chat Tell Us Your Troubles Thread - advice & friendly chats

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by BloodyFingers, Oct 22, 2013.

  1. Evangelion

    Evangelion Supernova

    And it's no doubt that in the past, we weren't nearly as developed and smart as we are now. I'd believe it if we've done worst in the past but are better now, that's why my hope comes with time.

    I don't know why we don't invest more into it... corporates and those on the right seem to think it's a whole bunch of bull for some reason. Sadly methods that are available to use as alternative fuel, are hella expensive. I'd love to have a hybrid or perhaps an electric car someday.
    We tried banning alcohol in the past, the country went crazy about it... not to mention they just found ways to obtain it explicitly anyways. It's hard to protect people from themselves. The real problem is people not showing restraint, which should be addressed and taken care of. Though I value drugs as a whole other ballgame compared to drinking, they shouldn't even be touched aside from medical purposes.
     
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  2. Farathil

    Farathil Spaceman Spiff

    It is hard to break that streak, I know that well. I didn't cry much as a kid, and all through middle school. Freshman year I was literally hollow, I didn't give two shits about anything. I finally crashed, almost like I was swollen with tears that should have been used those years ago. I was in the worst shape I have ever been in thus far. I was put into a depression center, it was stale. All it taught me was people have it way worse than I do, which in retrospect made myself worse. Because I thought I didn't deserve the same treatment as they did. I also gained some... for a lack of a better word emotional maintenance skills.
    (Back to the faith topic)
    I reference this speech alot.
    This refers to all people and I think of this speech when I start to lose faith in the human race.
     
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  3. Pyrolun

    Pyrolun Scruffy Nerf-Herder



    This and so much this, I care for my mother who suffers from CRPS (Chronic Regional Pain Syndrome). Or craps if you want to call it that, because it is crap. It's basically a degenerative neurological disorder which means the excruciating pain that she is constantly subjected to also influences her body in other ways. Muscular atrophy and such (she can't even use the fingers on one of her hands, the muscles are gone).


    Smoking weed (although completely illegal in the UK) is such a massive relief from the pain for her. It's not just reprieve from the physical pain either. A shame that it isn't available in the same way it is available in say Canada, because anything else that has been used on her has made her worse or exasperated the problem (currently barely anything is known about CRPS). Weed has been her only reprieve, it's just not readily available (or profitable).
     
  4. Ruin

    Ruin Existential Complex

    @Pyrolun;
    I think most level-headed people agree how bad oil is for our planet, and ourselves, but I disagree whole-heartedly with the drugs sentiment.
    While I don't do any of those things myself, the person should have the right to do whatever they want to themselves. It's their body, not yours nor mine. If they aren't harming anyone else, second-hand smoke and such, then there is no good reason for them to be denied their 'fix'.
    One cannot learn without making mistakes, yes?
     
  5. Awesomized

    Awesomized Oxygen Tank

    As an Australian, I didn't know that they stopped working on that.
     
  6. Farathil

    Farathil Spaceman Spiff

    I don't have any want to go into a debate, just stating my humble opinion.
    I have friends who get very very bloody drunk very VERY below the drinking age, I "had" a friend who claimed he did heroine, I have friends who have died from people getting run over by people under the influence. I had a friend (god bless him) comitted suicide, by the abuse of muscle relaxers. (When you overdose muscle relaxers your body literally forgets to breathe.) If you don't want to be in this world anymore, and harm yourself there is nothing I can do for you. Other than comfort the person dissuade them from doing such acts. When someone is knowingly doing something scientifically proven to be terrible for ones body it can hurt people mentally and physically. I cried the whole night, even went to my priest when he told me (my best friend since 6th grade) does heroine.
    Anything that modifies the mind on purpose for a unethical reason is harmful for them and for others.
    Once again, I have no interest in an argument, but I would call a drug abuse hotline in a heartbeat if I learned someone I hold dear to my heart to be hurting themselves.
     
  7. Treadlight

    Treadlight Existential Complex

    I've recently been informed that I do in fact have anxiety disorder to some degree. While the diagnosis has apparently been there for years, I hadn't really known until now.

    Even more unrelatedly, I had been watching an LP of MGR:R since the game isn't available on a system I own (or can run it on). The reason I mention this is because the LP had reached a (series of) cutscene(s) that I found particularly interesting.
    I can't really explain it very well, as there had been quite a bit of buildup. The cutscene in the Denver area where Samuel continuously taunts Raiden for his causes, and the short segment of gameplay afterwards was the buildup. The cutscene itself was the one before the fight against Monsoon. The actions of Raiden during that cutscene really struck a chord with me. If you are okay with spoilers, then I'd recommend looking up the series of cutscenes for yourself. However, a lot of the meaning is lost if you don't watch the buildup.
    I'm genuinely curious what other people think about it, and if anyone else can empathize with Raiden. Or if you just find Raiden to have gone crazy.

    Sorry if this seems out of context, or something. I thought it related closely enough to human psychology that I could talk about it here.
     
  8. Farathil

    Farathil Spaceman Spiff

    Sorry man, I have not played much of the series. I can't level with you on that.
    Do you know what form of an anxiety disorder you have? Because I too have a form of it.
     
  9. Treadlight

    Treadlight Existential Complex

    I've never even seen footage of a metal gear game before watching that LP, so don't worry. I'm just wondering if anyone else who's not worried about spoilers was willing to look up that cutscene and relate.
    I think it's just generic anxiety, nothing really specific. It might have even been just "should be treated like she has it" type of diagnosis.
     
  10. Ruin

    Ruin Existential Complex

    I'm very sorry for your loss, and I also have no intentions of debate, so I'll make this my last post on the issue.
    Truly, I am very empathetic for your loss, but that happened of nothing but their own volition, correct? They made those mistakes, and if nothing else, they learned the hard way. Believe me, I don't wish for anyone to have to learn the hard way, but sometimes it just happens. I'm trying my damn-dest to not sound like a dick here. Attempting to stop an issue by making it illegal isn't going to make a large difference. Sure, some people may be saved, but it isn't going to leave them with peace of mind, and the others will keep doing it anyway. I say, let people make their own mistakes, and more importantly, let them live their lives the way they see fit. One of the reasons I hate society's education system so much, that goes for any first world country.

    Take that how you may, but I only wish the best for people. What kind of life do you really have if you're not free to live it?

    I don't have anxiety issues, but I did find the Ripper scenes to be quite interesting. It's almost as if Raiden had a complete switch of character during those moments, where the pent up regret and rage manifested into a split personality. I can relate, in a manner of speaking, how about you? What was so striking about it to you?
     
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  11. Treadlight

    Treadlight Existential Complex

    Hmm, this is surprisingly difficult to explain, especially due to the fact that I can't find the words for speech very well.

    I guess I can use your interpretation as a starting point in explaining mine. I find that he did not in fact have any sort of switch of character, but rather he found his "true form." I noticed throughout the previous scenes in the game, he seemed like he was subduing his emotions for the sake of others. When he decided to go to Denver despite his higher-ups specifically ordering against it, it seemed like he was using it as an excuse to let out some of those subdued emotions. I had a huge smile on my face throughout the entire Monsoon cutscene, especially during the maniacal laughter. He finally found what he wanted, and I could almost synaesthetically feel his emotions just pouring everywhere.

    I hope that suffices as an explanation. I'm never good with finding words, but I like to use them poetically when I can.
     
  12. Evangelion

    Evangelion Supernova

    The problem is that I do care, like tons. I don't care about showing my feelings or any of the hiding them away stuff. I'm unfortunately way too "feely" when it comes certain things(or maybe people) that I like. I just can't cry for whatever reason... Though I've never been depressed, the times I felt hollow didn't make me want to cry- it just made me sit and lose will to do things. I know what you mean though, I have to punch myself when I'm getting bored since I literally have so much to do and so much more than lots of people have.
    That's a pretty good quote, I used to think like him in the first section of it.
    That's why I said medical is completely fine and all that. Besides, we're talking about marijuana which... well, just isn't nearly as bad as crack or heroin. Watching someone try to get clean, but just fall down again is a horribly sad sight. Addiction- is a horribly sad thing. Even lesser drugs like cigarettes are just terrible for you in large quantities, then you become addicted to them too.
    Not stopped, accelerated.
     
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  13. CondrioidViking

    CondrioidViking Big Damn Hero

    Aye, born and raised with it. Mhm, so did mine a while ago too when I just didn't want to leave because everything would just be shit, or atleast so I was saying. If someone tells me to do something when it comes to work/chores, I never keep my attention at it (Or I can't, it's impossible), I can only do it and keep my attention at it if I decide to do it myself and nobody tells me to. It's incredibly irritating. ><

    Yeah, I was that so much a while when I had nothing to do, still sorta am. Which sucks, ofc. Heck, only way to stop being that is to actually just throw myself into it and go outside more and whatnot, and not just sit in my room saying how shitty everything is if I leave it. Which worked, but I got sorta lazy I guess and stopped it, so it's time to start over again. But just try to go out more/talk to people a bit more, even if you'd rather want to be in your room all day and so on, or get a job etc, and you'll have some friends in no time.
     
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  14. Pyrolun

    Pyrolun Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    I'm not sure what to do but I need someone to see this.


    I am being reckless and taking risks I really, honestly should not be taking. Recently I injured myself pretty damn badly, only two days ago actually and I have been in excruciating pain ever since. I'm finding it hard to just sit still or make much sense when I try to articulate myself because the pain is so intense so I will keep this short.


    Yeah, it was very silly and I'm not sure what compelled me to do it. Climbing up a stile and then trying to tightrope walk a barbed wire fence is NOT a good idea. The fact that the injuries I received from that stunt could have potentially been fatal on their own (cut up my thighs pretty bad) and I was lucky they weren't because I was alone. The fact that I had to hobble 17km to get home did not help with that . . .


    Not really understanding what's going on in my head, it is silly but I bite myself pretty badly on my hands or my arms when I get in frustrating situations and I haven't done that in such a long time. It makes me feel like I have control in those moments, I definitely do not. I have destroyed the progress I have made in the past to get over things like this. I keep everything to myself and I built a barrier made of lies and essentially told myself "no, things like that won't affect me in the future" and it makes me feel like a failure that it has hit me so hard.
     
  15. Farathil

    Farathil Spaceman Spiff

    Sir, I think everyone has moments where we feel like we had no common sense, and screw ourselves up because of it.

    The real issue is being in the right mind and still doing things like that, because that could mean that you would be purposely be putting yourself in danger. There are several explanations of why that would happen, but since I don't think that you fell on purpose so I will not go into it.

    As for biting yourself, that also is somewhat normal. Not healthy, but normal. When I get overly pissed off I might beat the living shit out of something, punch myself, bite myself, hell I have even pulled out my own hair. You have to 1. Accept that no one is perfect and you might let things mess with you, but you will work on it over time, and 2. You and I both need to have a more healthy stress reliever rather than some form of self harm. Working out, running, some form of art, talking with people, etc.

    Mate, I think anyone with some form of stress, depression, anger will feel like they have failed in some way. The difference is you have to be the one to stand up say "Shit happens", try again, and take your problems one step at a time.

    Kind of talk yourself through it, and take your self criticism, weigh it to be logical, then work from there.
    It is hard, but it helps.
     
  16. DrChemistry

    DrChemistry Subatomic Cosmonaut

    Dude it's fine, we all have done really stupid things in our lives that could have killed us. It's nothing to be ashamed of, it's part of life. The best that you can do is just laugh it off and make sure you don't do it again.


    As for the biting thing it actually made me chuckled because I used to do the exact same thing. But I never really found it much of a problem, unless you break the skin that is.
    Guys don't finish puberty till about 24-25 so it's normal that you sometimes have these spouts of anger. Hormones are messing about in your body creating chemicals that do stuff.
    It's natural to be angry sometimes during stress but I'd suggest that you try and not be angry all the time. Handling stressful situations is not easier when you're mad, in fact I'd say that it was a lot harder.

    If you really concerned about it you might want to try meditation.
     
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  17. ___MeRliN___

    ___MeRliN___ Guest

    Mhh this looks interesting, going to dive into this thread tommorow, need to rest for today, had to make an important decision today... need to clear my mind a little and read through the stuff here, try give some advice and at some point letting people inside my twisted, sorta desolated mind... some of you read already on another thread about a similar topic and answered with their story aswell but this thread seems to be a bit better maintained...
    Good that there are still people helping others and advising them with these certain issues and accepting these issues nowadays in a society where everyone seems to demand from you to be perfect while they are unable to be that themself... but well time supposes to heal all wounds... I came to the conclusion it certainly does not, well gonna share all that tommorow after I slept and probaly feel a bit better then today.

    Failure and letting go, giving up was, is and will be never an option...
     
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  18. WtfzillaBro

    WtfzillaBro Guest

    A couple years ago there was this kid who went to my school, his name was Jason.
    He was what most people considered a "fat awkward loser", some people even went and gave him the name "Tank-ass" and other things like that. Unfortunately at the time, I was one of those people.
    From what I understand he was a good kid. Straight A's, damn near perfect attendance. Never partied, never drank.

    He had asked me one weekend to hang out with him, maybe see a movie. Of course being the little shit that I was then, I had turned him down. Not for any good reason, just so I could stay "popular".
    That weekend his brother had come back from Afghanistan, and found Jason's body. He had hung himself in the garage of his house.
    We held our yearly Veteran's Day assembly just a bit after the suicide. Jason's brother was part of the audience, in full uniform.
    I read my excerpt from a book about Vietnam, and during the entire assembly Jason's brother just locked eyes with me and wept in front of everyone.


    I have dreams about Jason. Not a day goes by where I don't think about how I should have been there for him.
    i'm a fucking terrible person.
     
  19. cyberspyXD

    cyberspyXD Tiy's Beard

    You can't blame yourself for not being as mature as you are now.

    And to me this sounds like a case of peer pressure. It makes people do strange things.

    When I was in elementary I made this one kids life hell because everyone else did it and I wanted to "fit in". I still feel horrible about that. But I don't think of myself now as a horrible person because I was young and foolish.

    Unfortunately you can't change the past. The only solution I could see is letting this go.

    But don't call yourself a terrible person. Your far from it.

    I'm assuming your in highschool or junior high. This is the age when you seek to fit in more, when you want to increase your standing among your peers. I think it's normal for teenagers to not understand the gravity of situations such as these. It's understandable that you were naive.


    I hope what I said has not made you feel worse somehow. But please don't blame yourself.

    Also if you want to go further into this you can give me a PM or reply back.
     
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  20. WtfzillaBro

    WtfzillaBro Guest

    I try man, I try. I ended up telling his parents after the assembly, and we started a tiny anti-bullying fundraiser that raised around $17,000.

    Thanks for telling me all that. This whole thread and what people say is really comforting.
     
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