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Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by tedlil, Jan 2, 2013.

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Do you think it's a good solution?

  1. Good idea!

    65.6%
  2. It isn't good idea.

    34.4%
  1. tedlil

    tedlil Pangalactic Porcupine

    Reading this all opinions about beta, supporting Chucklefish etc i got an idea that could be good for all.
    JUST:
    - ask devs for pre-order possibility (to make people, who wants to help financially or just want to feel that they already bought Starbound, happy. No matter if dev team will release beta or not)
    - regular (weekly?) stream with some Starbound footage until release (the same as above)

    So the curious or impatient people should be happy with this streams and also people who want to help should be happy. What do you think about it?

    EDIT
     
  2. NNV

    NNV Big Damn Hero

    I don't see why not. I would be perfectly happy with ether one.
     
  3. Active Link

    Active Link Master Astronaut

    I don't think a regular stream would be a good idea. First, because if they're spending time showing stuff off in a stream it will only serve to prolong development. And second, people will make inaccurate, negative judgements about the game because of the bugs that will show up.

    Also, they are already considering a pre-order.
     
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  4. tedlil

    tedlil Pangalactic Porcupine

    i know they are. Every single stream that was showed before also got bugs, but everyone knew that it's because they are working on something and they disabled some options just to hide it from us (more surprises on the release). So every regular stream could have such note on it, so new people could know this too.

    EDIT: and also they don't have to show us too much! Look. With one stream they could for example show us some farming crops (not all), with other naturally generated cave, with other how they build house or something. They won't show us too much and if there will be one stream every week they won't show too much before release, because Starbound won't come out in the end of the year, will it? One small feature every week isn't too much for such big game, is it?
     
  5. love doctor

    love doctor Cosmic Narwhal

    The problem with streams is they have to lock content down so they dont spoil it and after stream thwy have to unlock it to work with it again depending idk how hard that is from a coders persepective but even if its easy thats a whole lot of on and off button toggling

    Preordering though thats an option i dont see any cons with from any perspective
     
  6. alex77456

    alex77456 Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Stream footage for those who pre-ordered only.
    Mwahaha.
     
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  7. ZangooseSlash

    ZangooseSlash Black Hole Surfer

    I would love a pre-order, even if it wouldn't give me a beta or anything.
     
  8. tedlil

    tedlil Pangalactic Porcupine

    I think it isn't big problem for them. They always show us only things that they want to :)
     
  9. I don't know if the weekly streams would really happen, unless they designated someone outside of the main development team to do it.
     
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  10. tedlil

    tedlil Pangalactic Porcupine

    so just suggest it :)
     
  11. XRiZUX

    XRiZUX Spaceman Spiff

    I don't know about this... If the streaming would take up too much time it would take a very long time before Starbound is ready for release.

    Even though I would love to see more streams of the game content I'm not sure if that's a good idea to focus on.

    A pre-order beta still seems like the best choice to me... Like if they worked on that I think it would be the best choice.

    Edit:

    Means I'm between Yes / No about this idea lol, can't vote :facepalm:
     
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  12. tedlil

    tedlil Pangalactic Porcupine

    like Shark said about streams: "[...] unless they designated someone outside of the main development team to do it."
    If they took someone who isn't developing Starbound but is in closed beta and give him instructions what he can show us it could be easy to do i suppose.

    pre-order beta is still uncertain idea until there are many people who just want to play game before release without helping devs (so it wouldn't be beta it would be some kind of pre-release). That's why i came up with this idea. To avoid pro and con discussion about beta.
     
  13. Pentarctagon

    Pentarctagon Over 9000!!!

    There doesn't seem to be much point to asking for a pre-order, the devs are more than aware of the number of people who want to pre-order the game already. Honestly, given how many times people have asked about it, I don't think there is a way they couldn't know already.

    I think you are underestimating what goes into planning a gameplay stream. Its not just "hey let's stream us randomly doing stuff".
     
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  14. tedlil

    tedlil Pangalactic Porcupine

    Many people are pushing devs to make pre-order + open beta. I'm suggesting just pre-order without any early access.
    Maybe i am underestimating what goes into planning stream, but their streams didn't look so difficult to make. It's just idea, i don't know what devs would say about it.
     
  15. Mianso

    Mianso Black Hole Surfer

    That's the third beta thread in a week?Like,there are 30 other identical threads?
     
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  16. tedlil

    tedlil Pangalactic Porcupine

    Man... READ BEFORE POST!
    EDIT: And because people like you there are many problems with beta (i'm saying it just BTW). You all don't read what it's said and judge.
     
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  17. Angbor

    Angbor Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    I think the devs mentioned that they don't want to sell something (pre-order) without giving something in return at the time of sale. And while there are a bunch of threads talking about pre-order / beta, this thread is talking about something different than the ones I've read. And that different thing is selling a pre-order for access to weekly streaming or updates on dev progress. Something like having access to a sub forum where they post weekly updates and stuff would be boss. I'm more with dev progress updates over streaming, streaming would take a lot to setup and then do and that would detracted from development. But just putting a list together and saying, we added this feature today would be quicker and still give people their fix. Plus, so long as they leave out what isn't completed it'll keep the nay sayers from getting pissed over an unfinished product.

    I'm still on the train of thought were I think doing a preorder for early access is the way to go. Then you don't have to worry about an unfinished beta leaving bad tastes in people's mouths and those who want to pre-order can play the game while disk are being burned or something. And maybe, as the OP suggested, we can get updates on dev progress before the early access starts.
     
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  18. Mianso

    Mianso Black Hole Surfer

    You say "Y u no preorder?" and(another thread plague I thought eraticated in october) "Give us gameplay".
    I just told you that you could've posted it in one of the thousand beta threads.You're not a newb,as you say,read...other threads before posting.
    There are no problems with beta.Also,tiy talked about beta in preorder.What do I think about it?
    1.old
    2.no/thegameiscomingoutinmothswhydoyouneedgameplay?

    P.S.:
    See the "omg combat sucks" posts after the october livestream.
     
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  19. tedlil

    tedlil Pangalactic Porcupine

    This suggestion would just be lost in hundred of "release beta please" posts in one of these threads. There always will be people who doesn't understand that some features are disabled for streams and/or some are still in development.
     

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