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Say No To Linear ! - We Want Change !

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by Rebelthumbz, Jan 8, 2014.

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Boycott the Tier Story Driven Loot System!

  1. Absolutely!

    30.2%
  2. Whats The Point!

    69.8%
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  1. Rebelthumbz

    Rebelthumbz Orbital Explorer

    STARBOUND MUST CHANGE ITS DIRECTION.
    I GIVE THANKS TO CHUCKLEFISH BUT WE ALL NEED TO SPEAK UP ABOUT ITS CORE LINEAR DESIGN AND GAMEPLAY MECHANICS.

    The devs must realize that this tier story driven loot system must go! "Story wrapped in a sandbox" is fine and all but when you create a system that basically forces us to progress according to a set of tiers its like you have a leash on all our necks to keep from actually exploring said planets and systems for our resources. Spread out the ores thoughout the entire galaxies. Make use of every ore even if we are the highest we can go. Theres no use after we pass these so called tier progression systems. Giving the player the will to explore a planet that is extremely difficult is freedom. Just because he lacks the equipment to survive just adds a quest on his own and gives him the choice to search another planet and equip himself better to come back. That is what we need. The will and freedom to explore worlds and create our own adventures. Matter Manipulater must beable to to be upgraded. I made a pickaxe. Manipulater sat on slot 1 for about 4 hours of digging and just searching besides laying torches. Why build a tool that barely gets used. Reforging weapons and armors with ores to create new sets of armor and weapons is the whole idea of giving the player his own personal inventory. Why
    explore and source up if the materials I find are worthless after I fight the ufo penguin boss. Explain.. If I need a rare material I shouldnt beable to just land on the according tiered planet and find it. I should beable to explore planets by choice if I dont find my set resource I will go to another planet. Thats called exploration my friends. The ship size must be increased. As for me my ship was my homebase. There was no point to build a standardized house or complex. Which I find just as an option. I just built shanties. Hah..
    The core of sandboxes is to allow open world freedom and exploration. Not to make a robot kill it take its processor and make the next set of tiered equipment. if you dont kill it you dont progress. This should not be the case. Its really sad that this game has so much potential and yet they dont see it. Difficulty should be set by your equipment and registered by the planet you land on. Not by your tiered level. When my friends join everyones equipment so be added automatically registered by the planets we go to and difficulty should be instilled by our combined ratios of health damage etc.. this is balancing. In closing this thread needs to be shared asap and voted on by the fans to remove the tier system and allow the devs to MAKE A TRUE CORE SANDBOX EXPERIENCE. I for one will be boycotting this game until further updates.
     
  2. Lobo

    Lobo Spaceman Spiff

    Tiy said somewhere that the current tier system is nothing like what he plan for the final release ;)
    relax, this is beta, no need to be harsh while suggesting changes. devs are open to consider them anyway...

    note: your text wall is killing me :zombie:
     
  3. Darklight

    Darklight Oxygen Tank

    Who crowned you the people's voice?
     
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  4. AmazingKitsune

    AmazingKitsune Space Spelunker

    I understand your position and all, but what is the purpose of boycotting a game that you've already bought?
     
  5. Drybonz

    Drybonz Subatomic Cosmonaut

    I guess that is the fundamental problem with the "early access" model. By supporting an early access game you surrender your consumer muscle.
     
  6. reezytm

    reezytm Void-Bound Voyager

    Was it absolutely necessary to italicize your entire post?
     
  7. MMbsman777

    MMbsman777 Subatomic Cosmonaut

    Honestly OP, you only gave up $15, that really isn't that much for game, even one this early in Beta. Maybe you should really give the Devs a chance to actually make it to the third phase of beta before you lose your cool? There is a thread in General discussion pinned near the top that is all about how Beta is going to work and give you an idea of what the Devs have planned as a big picture, not to mention that if you scroll down a bit on the home page for Starbound you will find a list of all the things the Devs are intending to add eventually. Modularly upgradeable ships is one of them. So, take it eeeeeeaaassssyyyy and remember. THIS IS BETA!!!!!!!
     
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  8. Rebelthumbz

    Rebelthumbz Orbital Explorer

    The fact is the core idea here and you pp
    All im saying is I wanna explore bro. These ores arent seperated. Just planet based on your tier level. Plus after you mine all this stuff and you progress its worthless.. you cant see that as a problem. Seriously im not hating on anything or any dev. I just want a good game that has great replay value. But whats the point if its always the same no matter what character you choose.
     
  9. powbam

    powbam Poptop Tamer

    You're not forced to do anything really. Proceed at your own pace. This isn't the end all be all for the game.

    And yea that text wall and all italics. And shouting at us at the start. Meh.
     
  10. Aeon

    Aeon Phantasmal Quasar

    aWtO0aR.gif
    Because this isn't even starbounds final form!
     
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  11. rubyfruit

    rubyfruit Void-Bound Voyager

    What attracted me to SB in the first place was the fact that there is some sort of story with the exploration. If i wanted to play a mindless sandbox game, i'd go play minecraft. Stories are good! Stories with progression are good. IT'S ALL GOOD!
    :V:V:V
     
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  12. Rebelthumbz

    Rebelthumbz Orbital Explorer

    I think its funny just because I post in bold you assume Im angry ha. Ive been in the sandbox since you were in diapers. You dont see the big picture because your naive. And cant even relate to what im actually pointing at with my posts. Apparently you have no clue.
     
  13. powbam

    powbam Poptop Tamer

    Who said you were angry? I asked what's with the yelling.

    And diapers? You're talking to a person who was born in '78. Don't think I need to say much more than that.
     
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  14. Aeon

    Aeon Phantasmal Quasar

    This thread is already dangerously close to getting out of hand.
     
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  15. Harlander

    Harlander Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    But if you didn't get early access, you wouldn't know if there was something about the game that you wanted to complain about!
     
  16. powbam

    powbam Poptop Tamer

    It was ooh the moment it hit. Could use a good lock down.
     
  17. The | Suit

    The | Suit Agent S. Forum Moderator

    The problem is - It might be a bit of an overstatement
    If you follow the history of development till now. The system is being "balanced" in its current state.
    No one would balance a system which is going to be changed.

    Which means what ever the system Tiy has mentioned, it will still be within the same basic rule set as it is now.
    The most likely variation would be through more variety of armour within the tier.
    But not the change of the tier system it self.
     
  18. Dirigible Tomato

    Dirigible Tomato Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    >Spend money on early access game
    >Dislike an obviously unfinished product
    >Boycott your purchased game
    >????
    >Fail to profit
     
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  19. Tleno

    Tleno Spaceman Spiff

    >implying... ah forget it, 4chan parodies are so last season!

    Anyways, thing is, I agree that some features could become unlockable more easily, or be available more early, yet still, the core idea of new armors and harder enemies with each tier sounds legitimate.
     
  20. QShadow

    QShadow Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Cool story bro, now relax. Tiy said the current tier system is just a placeholder.
     
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