Sand and gravel cave-ins should hurt and suffocate

Discussion in 'Mechanics' started by Draven Rostderzeit, Dec 10, 2013.

  1. Draven Rostderzeit

    Draven Rostderzeit Space Spelunker

    When I break a block that unleashes a torrent of sand and gravel onto my head, I should get hurt.

    If it's just 3 blocks falling from a two-block height, ok, I get why it wouldn't hurt, but an entire 20x20 pocket of gravel falling on me should hurt me badly. Not only that, if I survive, I should be urged to dig out pretty quickly to avoid suffocation.
     
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  2. Lajosward

    Lajosward Void-Bound Voyager

    I was just coming here to post this exact same thing. Thank you for bringing it up. Would lead you to use explosives instead of just your pick. It just makes more sense.
     
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  3. Spanjer

    Spanjer Space Hobo

    also is it currently a bug right now that sand and gravel can spawn floating or well above you (aka no affected by gravity till you activate a blow beside it / update it) if not it still sort of makes sense that portions of sand caves made out of fine sand would remain standing / stable untill someone touched something near it. i also like the idea of the sand damaging you i think gravel should do more damage and sand should more or less be a suffocation issue / i cant get this stuff off! of me issue
     
  4. Thorjelly

    Thorjelly Tentacle Wrangler

    Everyone is sick of sand being basically the most dangerous thing early game in Terraria.

    Sure, the Oxygen bar could appear if you're buried head to toe in sand, but that bar lasts so long, what'd really be the point? Besides, sand is so porous, is that really realistic?

    Damaging sand is really not missed, imo.
     
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  5. Draven Rostderzeit

    Draven Rostderzeit Space Spelunker

    Sand could just damage you if it fell from a higher point than gravel's.

    Also, "sand is so porous?" Try being buried in sand, see how long you stay there alive before your chest can't expand anymore and you have sand in your lungs. :p
     
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  6. Thorjelly

    Thorjelly Tentacle Wrangler

    I've been packed in sand before. And people have been packed in snow before. The danger is being unable to move. Not being unable to breathe. It's kind of amazing how little wet sand is needed to make it difficult getting out, but, you can still breathe.
     
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  7. Spanjer

    Spanjer Space Hobo


    well honestly i've been playing a glitch char and just figured the giant oxygen bar was because i was a robot lol :p
    but at the end of the day if gravel falls on you that stuff isan'isn't light. Also i was an avid terraria player *230 Hour's +*
    and the whole dying from sand thing didn't really ring any bells so im not 100% on that being an issue in starbound.

    so yeah the oxygen bar is to big right now but ima stick with my guns on this one
     
  8. Spanjer

    Spanjer Space Hobo

    yeah haha that's what i was thinking ....drowning in sand ..it can happen
    it's essentially like being buried alive, maybe you'll get one breath before
    your lung's are compressed so tight you can't breath anymore.
     
  9. SnakeX

    SnakeX Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    I'm not too keen on sand/gravel doing damage unless it's not major, but I do agree that at the very least the oxygen bar should deplete when players are submerged in sand/gravel.
     
  10. Spanjer

    Spanjer Space Hobo

    That's actually a great point and something that could be added to the game !WET SAND!

    "Wet Sand" It's created when fine sand and water come together, the fine sand compresses to 2/3rds (or 2/4th's)
    of it's mass over a small duration of time

    edit, so you could use water to compress a room of sand but you'd also be creating a sustance thats harder to mine but comes in a smaller/refined form
     
  11. Draven Rostderzeit

    Draven Rostderzeit Space Spelunker

    I agree, wet sand would be ideal.

    Regarding damage, it would mostly be minor from falling from a great height, but at least some...

    Regarding sand, I didn't mean being packed in sand, I meant being 100% buried in it.
     
  12. Spanjer

    Spanjer Space Hobo

    What'd really be my worse nightmare would be if i dug into some sand quickly and it opened up to a lake above the sand i was in causing all the fine sand to merge into wet sand which is 3-8x as hard to mine

    lololol

    needless to say this would be pretty scary moment as you watch the water slowly seep through the sand above you as you forcing you to quickly dig out of the sand that hasn't been affected yet and still falls to the ground when hit with a pickaxe
     
  13. Ohsillyus

    Ohsillyus Sandwich Man

    Nooo it's too much fun causing massive gravel and sandslides! Also it's rather hard to avoid aometmes/
     
  14. Draven Rostderzeit

    Draven Rostderzeit Space Spelunker

    It's not if you know where you're digging... Unless you're digging in complete darkness = not good.
     
  15. Spanjer

    Spanjer Space Hobo

    it is pretty fun :p
    also it's not completely illogical that that would occur in real life (aka a substance that would more commonly fall freely forming into a semi stable naturally formed architecture)
    i'm still 50 50 if it's a bug or not i'm assuming it is though, I think i remember terraria had the same thing going on for awhile
     
  16. Damuranashi

    Damuranashi Existential Complex

    Please no. Its so easy to sand and gravel to fall upon you, you'll die everytime you go into a cave.
     
  17. Draven Rostderzeit

    Draven Rostderzeit Space Spelunker

    Again, not if you know where to dig. It's impossible for it to fall on you unless you purposefully dig into it. Simply take a look at the situation to understand what would give in. Do you dig blindfolded? :p
     
  18. Amelia

    Amelia Intergalactic Tourist

    if you re under sand for too long you do suffocate, you get the air bar to pop up.
     
  19. Draven Rostderzeit

    Draven Rostderzeit Space Spelunker

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