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Ribbit Theory

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by Gila, Mar 25, 2014.

  1. Gila

    Gila Big Damn Hero

    :hylotl: The agarans have mutated a hylotl. Hylotl are actually frog creatures.
     
  2. Animator

    Animator Cosmic Narwhal

    Seems too far fetched. Most of the Agarans actions so far involve a prisoner-like stance to the people they have; and the things they do to them means that they don't last very long, so Ribbit being a mutant probably isn't the chain of thought that would go to the right direction.

    As for the Hylotl being frog creatures, Molly said it right here that they're closer to tree frogs, so it's not far off to ascertain a link between Ribbit and the Hylotl, but whether or not the connection was forged through an artificial means through science gone awry remains to be seen. My personal theory is that Ribbit seems to be a very primitive ancestor to the Hylotl; and to make things interesting, his outfit is resembles some Floran attires that I've seen. Perhaps in the days long since forgotten, the ancestors of the Floran and Hylotl shared a similar origin, and once lived peacefully together before some sort of political shift which caused war between the factions? Who knows? It's all speculation from here on out.
     
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  3. Gila

    Gila Big Damn Hero

    After being I'm prison do long the hylotl started to mutate due to the lack of sunlight. As for the clothing the florans are obviously behind this sinister plot. The florans want to wipe out all other species and become the superior race.
     
  4. SugarShow

    SugarShow Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    The agarans arecreated by Hytols using dead floran corpses, now they gonna want to mix the other races to it.

    :hylotl: ( :devil: )
     
  5. Animator

    Animator Cosmic Narwhal

    That makes no sense.
    But you said the Agarans were the ones imprisoning the Hylotl? It's difficult for the Agarans to be working with the Florans since they imprison them too. Hypothetically, let's say the Florans wanted to take over the galaxy as the superior race; they'd be hard pressed to do so, when they constantly fight within their own factions. The Florans are so split between their own species that they only way they could possibly take up that goal is if they all simultaneously decided, "Hey, let's stop figthing each other and fight everyone else!". I've seen Orks with better coordination than them.
    And vice versa; the Hylotl can't be responsible for the Agarans, since they intercepted them from a peace mission, and to note, were never heard from again.
     
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  6. Gila

    Gila Big Damn Hero

    Nonsense. The hylotls are the most peaceful species in the game. (And the smartest)

    The florans don't want anyone to know they're behind it
     
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  7. Animator

    Animator Cosmic Narwhal

    I have a shaking feeling that you play Hylotl.
    Okay, let's humor you. Lets say that the Florans are behind it, and they are the ones responsible for the creation of a new species, and ignore the fact that the only way they possibly could do so is if they reverse engineered Apex cloning technology and had it go awry with plant DNA, which in of itself could potentially explain why some Apex hospitals are overrun with Agarans and covered with vines.

    The question is, why would the Florans experiment on themselves and imprison themselves in cells to be fed by these strange mushroom like people that they created? The Florans like taking control of the things they do and learn; look back at that one Floran who decided to go out of his way to write his own manifesto on destroying everything in sight because he was taught to write. Why would a species so inclined to brag about any advantage they have, with the notable exception of Greenfinger, not brag about the fact that they manufactured these Mushroom people?

    Now, before you say it's because they want to keep it a secret, let's compare it to the system Big Ape has. Big Ape has scientists that experiment on innocent Apex, and are secretive about it. In the case of the Agarans, why is there always only /one/ Floran each time you find them in those small prisons, or pods, or lava pits? Why would the Florans allow themselves to be outnumbered and not in control of something that they supposedly made?

    And why would the Florans allow the Agarans to grow to the point where they have their own villages?

    The only way to explain these things is if the Agarans are purposefully kidnapping Florans to do whatever it is they wanna do, and whatever it is they wanna do doesn't look very fun.

    I feel that the only way to get to the bottom of this is to try and understand the Agaran dialogue, but as far as I know, there is absolutely no relationship between Frog Vendors and Agarans.
     
  8. Namiwakiru

    Namiwakiru Black Hole Surfer

    Who you calling a frog creature?

    Next you will tell me your species used to be apes or something
     
  9. Gila

    Gila Big Damn Hero

    Tree frogs
    Experiment gone wrong?
     
  10. Rune the Red Panda

    Rune the Red Panda Existential Complex

    This seems way too short to be a theory, it's too far fetched.. You should expand upon it.
     
  11. Animator

    Animator Cosmic Narwhal

    Except the Florans aren't known for their sciences. The ship they "reverse engineered", the only notable scientific trait they have, is literally a slighlty modified Apex ship that was more likely stolen than remade. These are people who can barely write, let alone commit to any form of science, something Greenfinger goes as far to admit, when he talks about local Glitch educating the Floran populace. It's like handing a five year old a crayon and having them write all over the walls (which is, ironically, what is similarly depicted in the journal).

    As for the Agarans being an experiment gone wrong, that is something I'm willing to say could be a possibility., but there's a problem with this theory. For one thing, it looks like the Agarans aren't made synthetically; their appearances in labs and the like seem to hint at the fact that they grow naturally in locations they mean to strike. The fact that they're usually found by other species and considered an anomaly by all other species, along with their ability to trap people in pods, seems to suggest that this is a kind of species that has grown by their own, achieved sentience, and are now attacking everything else. They give the impression that they're more of a product of nature gone awry instead of science. The villages they have seem to support this.

    You could easily say, "But wait! The Glitch are an artificial species created by another civilization! Why can't the Agarans fall under the same possibility?" The issue is that the Glitch, unlike the Agarans, do not spurt out of the ground or are formed by a natural means. Combined with their primitive nature similar to the Florans, it's unlikely this race was made artificially.

    The personal theory I have about what the Agarans are involves Florans, but not as some sort of insane conspiracy. Fungi are decomposers that destroy dead cells, and the Agarans are essentially living mushrooms. Now, mushrooms are commonly found on dead planets, whether in the ground, on trees and the like. Since the Florans are essentially living plants, it could be possible that a strain of mushroom may have processed the genetic composition of a dead Floran and evolved to something similar to what a Floran is. The process for this would start out as a simplified form of what current Agarans do to other life-forms, but without the pod: Absorb all the dead nutrients, grow, and in that process mutate into something that could be considered alive. It's not too far a stretch from what already exists in nature, only the difference of what I'm saying is that it is the completion destruction and absorption of a dead organism to create a new one. There is evidence to support a prototypical form of Agaran: The Mushroom Monsters that exist in Agaran villages are potentially what these mushrooms could have grown and evolved to be, which then result into the modern day Agaran.

    After having time to grow into this new form or organism, the modern day Agaran most likely achieved sentience and began organizing themselves based upon their surroundings and form. It is possible that the release of Agaran spores may have resulting to fungi infected large trees, creating mushroom biomes. Once they made houses and villages, it's likely they lived in relative peace for a while until they saw other lifeforms. Since their language is unintelligible (though I'm going through their dialogue now to understand it), and all of them are armed, strife may have possibly occurred between Agarans and new life forms, and their modus operandi changed to make sure they were in seclusion. This explains why the Agarans you find are never hostile to you, but persecute other species.

    The alternate possibility as to why they put people in pods may be an even darker realization: The fact that now, as mushrooms, they require the dead flesh of other creatures due to their evolutionary mutations and not being bound to the ground, and have been kidnapping Florans to do so. The fact that the Apex have fallen prey to them means that they most likely found samples of Agaran mushrooms, which detected their presence, and they have now extended their ability to pod people beyond their original progenitors. Judging from the decoration of the pod itself, it may even go beyond feeding: The remains that can't be broken down are formulated into a brand new Agaran, making a means of repopulating possible to them.

    Simply put: They're mushroom people who are doing what feels natural to them; and if they're self-aware, they probably know it's wrong, but don't care about it anyway.
     
  12. neil_v

    neil_v Big Damn Hero

    Well, the frog race is certainly wealthy as they can afford to open shops deep underground with no access to the surface. It would appear that they are actually arms dealers as the 'mining supply' industry is a joke. Having a mining supply store does give you licenses to carry high explosives which nullifies the usefulness of ordinance sniffing super organisms. The truth of this is made apparent by the fact that you cannot access the shops without mining tools, or more realistically: High Impedance Precision Teleportation. This sort of tech is only available to the ultra rich and powerful, and none of us has ever seen it as we have not even scratched the surface of wealth and power in this universe. You can only buy mining supplies from the frogs because your plebishness is very apparent when you come mining in through the ceiling...
     
  13. Rune the Red Panda

    Rune the Red Panda Existential Complex

    That was some serious TL;DR right there.. you wrote an entire essay replying to his small comment.. ._.
     
  14. ThunderBeta

    ThunderBeta Big Damn Hero

    Ahem… *Pulls dusty golden-laced book from ornate shelf and sits in fancy leather chair before a fire*
    My theory is simply the Agarans having a lot to do with a certain Dr.Lax… Something Greenfinger would kill to keep a secret… COUGH.
     
  15. Serenity

    Serenity The Waste of Time

    This an X file. Watch out op the government of chucklefish will try to silence you.
     
  16. cyberspyXD

    cyberspyXD Tiy's Beard

    He is talking about the Hyloti.
     
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  17. Animator

    Animator Cosmic Narwhal

    I'm passionate about mushroom people.
     
  18. neil_v

    neil_v Big Damn Hero

    Oh... well, at least you now know my opinion on a completely unrelated topic... My Ribbit Theory, to be precise.
     

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