Regarding the Manipulator, Accelerator and Separator

Discussion in 'Blocks and Crafting' started by soopytwist, Feb 3, 2015.

  1. soopytwist

    soopytwist Pangalactic Porcupine

    This needs to be changed. It is somewhat confusing and highly unnecessary to make a Manipulator to craft Rubium armour, an accelerator to craft Aegisalt armour and a Separator for Violium armour.

    Would it not be more appropriate to stick with just a Manipulator? Then you can have a Rubium Manipulator an Aegisalt Manipulator and a Violium Manipulator - much more simple to follow and informs you which manipulator you should craft depending on what or how many of those ores you've got.

    Then you can keep the Accelerator and Separator for different crating options.

    For example the Accelerator could be just that, a particle accelerator, that you can use to change the atomic structure of items and turn them into something else. Iron into Gold, Violium into Aegisalt.

    Meanwhile the Separator could be used to separate (see what I did there?) a crafted item back into its constituent parts. Turn an accidentally crafted Rubium Manipulator back into 10 Refined Rubium, 20 Durasteel bars and a Replicator or just Wood Planks back into Logs.

    Quite frankly Chucklefish's current use of the above is pretty stupid. I can only hope the whole thing is a placeholder for something more permanent - hopefully something more along the lines of what I've outlined above.
     
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2015
  2. InflamedSebi

    InflamedSebi Void-Bound Voyager

    Well they have completely different usage at the moment ...
    The Manipulator is for "Mage" stuff (high energy armor/ staffs/ no melee/ no guns)
    The Separator is for "Warrior" stuff (high defense armor/ melee weapons/ no guns/ no staffs)
    The Accelerator is for "Hunter" stuff (balanced armor/ guns/ no melee/ no staffs)

    I was confused at the beginning too, but if u see the system behind, it makes sense.
     
  3. soopytwist

    soopytwist Pangalactic Porcupine

    Yeah I realise that but my point is there's no need. Just have three different types of manipulator and that frees up two cool sounding devices for something else...such as my point above.
     
  4. AntiStoned

    AntiStoned Big Damn Hero

    Cramming all those armor and weapons would really be a pain to scroll into.
     
  5. soopytwist

    soopytwist Pangalactic Porcupine

    No it wouldn't. If you had a Rubium Manipulator you'd only see Rubium armour and weapons to scroll through.

    Unless of course you meant the Accelerator and Separator...actually yeah you were probably referring to those. I see your point.
     
  6. Taiine

    Taiine Pangalactic Porcupine

    But if you only saw them, what if you wanted to change gear? If you only saw it you'd be screwed, unable to craft the other stuff.

    "Well this boss is better at range, okay! I'll just... oh wait I can't see it now sense I made this other one..."
     
  7. soopytwist

    soopytwist Pangalactic Porcupine

    Um, no. You'd just craft all three manipulators, craft all three armour types, then you can change armours whenever you want. And you'd only need one accelerator and one separator for crafting other things - but I agree with Antistoned that the craft list would be too big to scroll through.
     
  8. JC_Fruit

    JC_Fruit Void-Bound Voyager

    Looks like TS don't get meaning of all this system with separators and manipulators . Separator it's not a mechanism that separate molecules, it's a man who separate parts from enemies with his sword. And this is true for manipulator and accelerator. And this is why crafting stations called SSeparator's TableS (with this possesive 's at the end) and not just "Separator"

    So there is no need to change names.

    But, for the sake of progression, it would be nice to see violium, rubium and aegisalt tiers for all three classes
     
  9. Sirrobert

    Sirrobert Big Damn Hero

    Soooo. You just want them to change the names.
    Seems like a very complicated way to suggest them to change the names
     
  10. soopytwist

    soopytwist Pangalactic Porcupine

    *sigh* forget it. What I have in my mind I can't quite seem to relate in text for everyone else to understand so I'll just mod it myself.
     
  11. Nerva

    Nerva Parsec Taste Tester

    What you're suggesting, basically, is a rename of the existing "separator" and "accelerator" tables into "<substance> Manipulator" tables.

    From a dev standpoint, this really wouldn't free up anything. The existing sprites would have to be used to distinguish the other two varieties of maniulator table, and new sprites would have to be made for the Separator and Accelerator table, as well as content to actually be used with those tables.

    From a player standpoint, it's just a renaming of the three different varieties of table, plus the addition of two new ones. The naming might wind up counterproductive, as these tables may be used for something other than their respective substance and its compounds in future tiers.
     

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