Printed items, value, authenticity

I'm curious about what "value" means here. Will printed gear have inferior stats? Will it look different? Will it be written in different color of text in the UI? Will printed furniture be fully functional (i.e. will lamps, containers, doors work). In short, I'm wondering what reason(s) a person might want "authentic" gear specifically.

I assume printed items will not be scan-able. Perhaps there will be other methods of salvaging items that also won't work on printed stuff.

Printing sounds like it'll be a great way to get consistent building materials without having to scour whole planets for that kinda-rare blue granite that you like or whatever. Looking forward to learning more about the 3D printer.

 

Hard to say. A lower value could simply mean that you can't sell the items for as much as you can the genuine article. However, my guess would be that they'll actually have lower stat values as to encourage you to go out and hunt down your own authentic items.

That being said, reverse engineering is going to be in the game and that is OMGWTFBBQ YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!!!!

Needless to say, I'm excited about that.

 

Well going off a 12am brain that wants sleep I'll have to say that....
1st) "anything you make with a 3D printer will be marked as “printed” and will have a much lower value."
It will function the same as the item scanned but will be tagged as "Printed" sorta like TF2's "Crafted" tag it functions the same but just a different tag causing it to have a lower value.
2nd) Authentic gear would be for the show-offy type who go around saying "I AM THE GREATEST EXPLORER, ALL OF MY ITEMS ARE 100% AUTHENTIC" or you can sell them for better prices!
3rd) Building will be easier if you can just print the materials, but you need materials to print things so maybe a convertering system, I honestly don't know.

 

That's what I was wondering. Lower value is probably directly related to sell value and trade value for things like cosmetic or decorative items, etc. I'm hoping "not as good when cloned" is part of the equipment side of things, as it gives incentive to find original gear, and trade value to original gear.

 

Yeah, I can't tell what I'd prefer. I like the idea of authentic items being desirable for reasons other than bragging rights, but at the same time scanning and destroying a good piece of gear for a mere chance to be able to print it is a hefty cost, so why do it if you can only make inferior copies.

To be honest, I'm a bit puzzled by this system.

This is the only purpose for the system I can think of that I totally like and am not conflicted about.

 

Probably like TF2, Starbound outpost, etc. Authentic ones would sell for regular price while printed would have lower value.

Eg. Guy 1 wants to trade guy 2 a printed sword for 50 pixels. Guy 2 won't except it because it is not authentic, will only give guy 1 30 pixels.

 

I dunno. Printing will be much less rewarding if this applies to EVERY item. If a lot of items can only be acquired by printing, and others only by exploration, then I would be okay with this system.

 

While I am pretty sure you can reverse engineer everything, it will most likely cost money, and possible quite a bit at that. It would be more cost effective to stock pile crafting resources and using them for later then simply buying everything, although that could be useful when you are in a pinch and need a certain block or crafting piece. ANd possible you can only have one on your homeworld and ship? I am very interested in seeing how this thing works

 

Better random stats on authentic items perhaps.

 

I thought crafting and and printing were completely different so you can either use materials to craft lets say a chair or use the 3D crafting ink to print the same chair accept the printed one will be less value but essentially the same in terms of functionality. Is that how it works I'm a bit confused?

 

Oh god, I wasn't even thinking when I typed crafting. I meant printing.

 

I think the 3D printer will be like a furnace in Minecraft where you put the item in and an amount of required pixels and you get a copy of said item.

 

Completely unfounded guess:

Printing will be more useful for cheap, low-grade disposable items. If you forgot your shovel and don't have iron on board the ship, print up a cheap shovel instead of heading back to the homeworld for 3 iron and 1 stick to make a shovel (or whatever). Also, quest NPC says "Fetch me a shrubbery! Not too short, not too tall, and not too pixel-printed!" or whatever. Need to go visit your outpost on Hoth, but packed for Bora Bora III? Print a cheap fur coat on the fly. Or, ya know, whatever.

I could also see decorating a house with cheaper stuff that you haven't found schematics for until you get the real deal, just so you don't forget what style you were going for.

 

Perhaps they will encourage "disenchanting" poorly rolled items? 1 x cheese sword of doom > 3 x cheese swords of turds, or something like that. However, an authentic one could be found with even stronger modifiers?

Like a +hp chest would go like this:
Printed: 1-10 stat roll.
Authentic: 1-15 stat roll.

So you find 3 poorly rolled authentic ones (1,2,2) and you use those to learn how to make it, and then print a 10 stat one.

There has to be some kind of incentive to actually lose your item, to make inferior versions of an item, and i can't really come up with anything other than that.

Also, the entire reverse engineering thing opens up for alot of completionist things... Finding the same item again and again suddenly isn't as terrible as it was before!

 

My guess is: it's just a lower price when selling to vendor. Just to prevent players form easy Pixel farming via printing and selling copies of costly item.

 

pretty much what I was gonna say

 

This will be a great money sink. If it has a nice cost to replicate an item, yes building will be much easier at later levels but dont expect to start the game, get one block of wood and then replicate it so you never have to chop down another tree.
I would imagine it would be more useful in building in end game when you have mined/deforested enough and simply can't be bothered doing that anymore to make yet another house for an ungrateful NPC who has come to leech off your bounty.

With weapons it may be on harder modes when you drop items on death, you can replicate an 'inferior' version so you haven't lost your only gear, and can use it to protect yourself as you collect the stuff you dropped.

Again, for later in the game when you have oodles of pixels coming out your... well you know. It will allow you to have something like a crafting mode where you can just replicate what you need and build epic structures without spending 3 weeks gathering the materials.

Either way I am really really excited with the idea and now suddenly oh so sad that Beta still isnt here... I want it now!!!

 

Same here. I assume value has to mean value, if taken on face value. I tried to find another way to say value, but couldn't see the value in it.

 

I would think it would be like the golden brick houses on the flying Islands in Terraria. As soon as you see it you go 'OMG I'M RICH!!!' spend 20 mins tearing the whole place down, fending off harpies to get it all to your merchant, just to find it has no monetary value...

Printed items would maybe be the same. Can't sell them but can use them when needed, or if youc an sell them for much less than it cost to replicate them.

so 1 x iron ore = 10 pixels to merchant
1 x iron ore = 10 pixels to replicate
1 x replicated iron ore = 6 pixels to merchant

would remove the whole replicate the heck out of everything and sell it mentality.

 

It honestly sounds like it's just an item duplicator. Let's say you want to make a building using a particular resource as building blocks. You have two choices-
1. you can run around digging up the blocks/resource yourself
2. you can dig one up, scan it and then "buy" a load of them using the item duplicator.

Basically, you need to decide whether you want to spend time getting it, or spend money getting it.

So, if you think about it, it means you don't have to dig a huge, ugly hole in the planet to get a bunch of stone for the sake of a building. If you've got the money, you can just make a lot of it yourself.

If your friend has an itty bitty gun and you have a nice, large gun then you can make him a nice, large gun that looks just like yours. Don't expect to get much if you try to sell the copy, though, because your big gun is natural while his is cheap plastic.

I am just slightly dubious about it. Item duplication is usually left out of games for the sake of game balance issues. I suppose people will usually find ways to do it, anyway. At least it uses your pocketbook as it's resource, so there's some balance. I honestly can't say that I disapprove, though, because it sure can get tedious having to dig up a ton of rocks for the sake of building. I'm assuming that's how it works.