Plutonium...Uranium... bomb?

Plutonium....Uranium.... not being able to use them to make stuff seems like a waste... you can refine them... but not being more than just... fuel.... is kinda.... shame.... we could totally use them to built stuff... like... NUKE?

Hell element these babies, like Uranium Electrifying Nuke, Plutonium Rad(deadlier 10DMG/P/S-poison)Nuke Solarium Incinerating (Burns 2X range of blast radius, 2X lasting, 2X DMG, AND melts stones to lava, turns sand to glass(solid) rid all plants animals if killed in blast (leaving NO wood, No meat, NO fibers)... and Coal makes regular bomb, from that blast radius increases by 2X range every tare...

 

I Approve this

 

Well, Nukes could be useful for landscaping / terraforming in the future.
Combat-wise, it sounds incredibly Over Powered. A rule should be that all dungeons near the surface must be cleared, and that no other player has marked that planet as home or is the spawn-planet, as the amount of griefing that could be done with this is unacceptable.


And Coal-Bombs..? Is that a thing? Steam bombs? xD
Gun-Powder is made from Charcoal, Sulfur and "Potassium Nitrate" -Wikipedia
Of course, coal with a few pixels could make bombs.

Anyway, I'm certain that the devs made them refine-able for a Reason. It is probably a feature that has yet to be added.

 

Don't forget! Death rays and Orbital Lasers too! Maybe even use it to upgrade those dinky turrets that are only decent at alpha and beta base security too!

 

I would love to see a mini-nuclear missile launcher gun model.
Also, bigger block breaking bombs would be nice.

 

I ... WAS thinking using these for Terraforming/digging.... yeah

they aren't NUKE, just uses the better fuel materials to make bigger bombs... at high levels... bombs don't count for squad, but they ARE good for digging though

 

I don't know how space ship combat is going to work in the future but nukes sound way cooler then lasers for space combat, makes more sense to cause lasers don't really do much...

 

Shooting Nukes at each other in space? We have lazers that can take down aircraft IRL. Besides, it's an instant hit.
Instead of radiating the surroundings and needing a massive amount of material to make nukes to throw at each other, I rather fire a high powerful lazer at an enemy ship any day.

 

The way lasers work is it heats up the surface it touches till it melts, with a powerful laser that can be almost instantly but we are talking about spaceships. My spaceship can survive the temperature of being so close to such a large blue star, and we are not truly informed about how are ships travel faster then light speeds but you can still see stars when you do it so it can be assumed that you are still flying through space, so when you are going that fast long enough it does not matter how thin space matter is it is still going to put friction on you. Just saying Starbound space ships can survive hot temperatures so it should be able to survive LASERS. Nukes on the other hand would take less energy to fire, have a larger area of effect, and just look way cooler then lasers. Think about it a nuke in space would look like a mini supernova.

 

I think a good way to even out the OP potential of a device like this would be two fold, as thus:

1) Make the nuke a placeable object that can be broken down/disabled just like any other container or decorative object. Like any good sci-fi device of the sort, it would have a standart countdown timer. If you really wanted to make it a task for the person on the receiving end in combat, there could be a wire-cutting minigame

2) After detonation, depending on the type of bomb you have created (Neutron, Thermo-nuke, ect) you will have different levels of destruction and long-term fallout. A standard thermonuclear bomb would leave behind a lot of radiation for a time, and the normal rain weather and liquids in a certain radius would turn to acid (in place of black rain that one would expect from nuclear fallout). Also, all electronics/tech, even outside of the blast radius, would be destroyed as a result of the EMP. A Neutron bomb, on the other hand, would not leave any radiation, but also destroy all organic life on the planet.

 

"No, cut the blue wire.... THE BLUE WIRE!"
KERBOOM!

My only issue with nukes is that they will become the griefer's weapon of choice. Imagine you are exploring a neat town with your group, and over the chat comes this message:

"FOR THE GLORY OF THE MINIKNOG!"

There you are, respawning. Anything you wanted in that town is gone. If the items remain, they are in a huge pile at the bottom of a large crater.

That not a scary enough scenario? Eventually we will have starports (we have to! please, devs?). A griefer, let's call him LittleJerk1, didn't like the fact that you wouldn't trade your Hood with Ears for his 2 banjos and a flute. He has a retribution suitcase nuke for just this occasion. There goes your materials, spawners and hours of your life.

What about LittleJerk1? Oh, he paid a 20% pixel death penalty. If this was premeditated, he didn't pay any at all.

This is not to say that nukes shouldn't be in the game, hut they should be VERY difficult to obtain. You should need special equipment and gear that is time consuming and costly to make. The bomb itself should cost about 1 million pixels. Yes, a million. Even with all that, there should be a chance of failure during construction, like in real life.

Oh wait LittleJerk1, you wanted to SURVIVE the blast by using a timer or launcher system? Even more cost and rare material. Of course, this delivery system is a one use item.

This may all seem extreme, but consider the manufacturing of a real nuclear device. A fast track build ina dedicated facility takes at least 90 days. It requires rare minerals such as tritium. It leaves behind radioactive waste and residue that must be contained. These things are so costly and horrible to use, they have been deployed TWICE in human history.

By making them difficult to make, this discourages the "casual nuker" from hammering out a stack of death on their Anvil, then using that stack to ruin your game.

 

... And then they start being regular loot once you get to Sector X.

Then, suddenly, there is a big hole where Sector X used to be

"Where was the kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth shattering kaboom!" - Marvin T. Martian

 

I approve. This is useful for mining. But it would be to cheap in your opinion.

 

Well, I'm worried that the bombs would be too OP to be honest if they were nukes. We aren't looking to blow up the planet. At most, just the whole screen's contents.
The Uranium and Plutonium Bombs would basically be the more potent version of the common Bomb, doing more damage and having a larger radius.
Let's not have actual literal Nukes, but instead more potent bombs. Variety is the spice of life.

 

I agree, if there going to be that cheap, please don't make them OP. But nuclear power would be cool if they add in electricity.

 

Wouldn't a nuke either not work or be far weaker than normal in space? Considering there's 1. no oxygen to fuel the flames, 2. no other material to carry the heat other than the ship materials, making it much less effective in getting a lot of heat across where it needs to be, 3. no oxygen or anything to carry the shockwave. Also, how would there be friction if there was no material rubbing on the ship? If you were flying through a large dust cloud sure, but just empty space? Nope, you're not gonna get much.

I would imagine non-explosives would work much better: Something like a rail cannon, or gauss cannon. Why? Magnets work in space. No explosive propellant needed. No oxygen to fuel said propellant needed. Can cause just as much damage as an explosive round due to extreme speeds (See 4miles/second-ish or more, probably more by that time), no material in the way to slow said projectile down, so they'd be effective at long ranges, and the rounds can be made from basically any magnetic metal. That's it. A 5 pound hunk of iron.

Also I would think lasers would work well by the time we have FTL travel, also considering how they focus ALL of their heat into a nanometers-wide beam, I'd imagine they'd work well for precision stuff, like taking out a specific engine or something.

But just imagine a 5 pound hunk of iron coming at your ship at 4 miles per second. THATSFRIGGENFAST, and stuff. Gauss cannons would be optimal for deep space conditions, I think.

 

1.you hav no idea of what you ar talking aboute by the way im not saying you ar dum or something sorry

2.a nuke is not gun powder bomb or a camp fire and it dont need any oxygen, it works by spliting atoms by the way even gun powder can explode in space be cos it has all the fuel in it to explode

3.nuclear testing has be done ones in space in real life in the 60s and i it blowed up in space and it was just as strong in space as if it was on earth but in space it had noting to stop the radioactiv rays form spreding in space

 

Actually, while his analysis is largely wrong in some areas he is fundamentally right in others. In the absence of an atmosphere there is no shockwave to carry the blast which means nuclear weapons in space are hugely ineffective as a force-based weapon. That's not to say a nuke going off next to your ship won't do a huge amount of damage, but a nuke blast in space is a very different beast from a nuke blast planetside. Most of the energy is transmitted as EM radiation (both ionising and non ionising) and has an effective range probably of around 1km - whereas in an atmosphere in the prescence of oxygen and an atmosphere to transmit the shockwave or fuel combustion, nukes can ignite and flatten stuff as much as 60km from the epicentre

 

Bleh forgive me, I was kinda tired lol, but yeah, as much as it'd cost for that I think it'd be much more efficient and effective if using gauss or lasers.

EDIT: Also, I love your mod. FLUFFEH SPACE RAPTORS! xD

EDITEDIT:

#1: Sorry I was a tad wonky, I was tired.
#2: But a nuke still produces flames and massive amounts of heat. With nothing to carry any of that but the ship, there'd be much less general-area damage outside of the ship that it impacted, no? (Heat wise anyways, the radiation may still.)
#3: Hmm. I never heard of that one. Source pls?

Oh and for the flame thing, ever tried lighting a candle in a jar and then closing the jar so that no air could get in? Fire feeds on oxygen. No oxygen = no flame. Or at least an extremely weaker flame.

 

Nuclear bombs don't need oxygen for the same reason the Sun dosen't need oxygen. Fusion/Fission energy dose not work the same way as normal fire that needs fuel/oxygen/heat to be maintained. Also heat from a nuclear blast in space works the same way as heat from the sun which dose just fine keeping this planet toasty. About the only thing that's lessened is shockwave impact from the blast, everything else is just as strong if not stronger with no atmosphere to absorb the energy.

As for atomic weapons, if they implement such weapons I think they shouldn't be anything bigger than a man portable weapon otherwise it would just be too powerful and possibly game breaking.



Like this perhaps, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device).