Please remove spouse jealousy

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Kamirose, Mar 11, 2016.

  1. 1Life0Continues

    1Life0Continues Void-Bound Voyager

    I'm really hoping CA at least knows about this thread. There are already plenty of deviations from the "source material" that adjusting this particular mechanic would really help differentiate it...at least in my eyes.

    I'm tired of relationships in games being transactional, but if there's at least some mitigation of the obvious problems with such simplification (such as this jealousy thing) I can at least tolerate it.

    I won't get married in SDV until there's some kind of change to this. It genuinely is that important to me. *shrug*
     
    • Zhimonster

      Zhimonster Void-Bound Voyager

      I actually joined the forums -just- to comment on this. It's very frustrating, and I actually wish I hadn't gotten my character married now. I'm trying to get the achievements for friendships now, and my spouse is jealous any time I give out gifts in town. He accused me of 'giving a gift to Harvey in secret' Dude, I gave out like 7 jars of apple jelly in town today, and that one was right in the middle of town in front of several people. It makes no sense, if my character is regularly giving out extra jars of preserves or pickles, that my spouse would randomly get jealous over certain ones. I -hate- jealousy, especially paranoid controlling jealousy. That sort of crud is a sign of an abusive relationship. Please adjust the way relationships work so that this does not happen. Sure, giving 'romantic gifts' should be an issue, but not giving out fargin farm produce. It's gotten to the point where I'm wishing there was a way to get rid of my spouse in game, because I feel like I'm married to my sister's ex now or something. My fav NPC in Stardew is now one I loathe.


      Edit: Didn't want this to be all negative. Clearly, I love this game. I've been playing it for countless hours, there are just a few glaring details that stand out, that tarnish an otherwise outstanding experience.
       
        Last edited: Apr 2, 2016
      • Avarwen

        Avarwen Pangalactic Porcupine

        I think it should stay in now if they don't have bouquet then your spouse shouldn't get mad. But once you give them a bouquet they should get upset. If my boyfriend gave another girl an engagement ring the same time he gave me one I'd be livid and dump his ass in a heartbeat. If you saw your girl flirting with another guy I'm pretty sure you be totally livid this game is supposed to be a little realistic and I like that it has even the unpleasant things in game.
         
          I <3 Garrus likes this.
        • skilynn

          skilynn Void-Bound Voyager

          I was browsing the web to see if there was a mod to remove jealousy and found this thread. I want all the villagers to like me, but I don't want my wife getting upset that I gave one of the marriage candidates a jar of mayonnaise. Especially when I give mayonnaise to everyone. Like, everyone. In my opinion, your spouse should only get upset if you give another single a bouquet. And along with that, I should be able to max out friendship with the other singles without giving them a bouquet.
           
          • Caudyr

            Caudyr Black Hole Surfer

            Or maybe if it's something they "love" then the spouse MIGHT get jealous...or maybe if you "give it to them in private" like...in their home or something like that.

            I get what you're saying, though.
             
            • Ambaaargh

              Ambaaargh Hard-To-Destroy Reptile

              I personally would love something to be altered a bit, but that's because I am fine with the idea of folks going the soap opera drama route if they want...but that should be their intent. Not "oh hey its Sam's birthday. I'll grab a pizza from Gus and give it to him cause he's my friend who I spent 2 years getting to know. Hey Sam. Here's a pizza. Heck I can't even talk to you because you are trying to do mad flips on your skateboard. That's cool though. Enjoy the pizza. Gonna go mine some. *hours later* Hey honey I'm home OH SNAP WHY YOU MAD? D: " cause it seems off to me that you can become like 10 hearts BFF with the blacksmith and every married woman in town, but you can't have the same tier of friendship with what I assume are your peers because they had the potential of dating you.

              But yeah, I would like to I dunno...give my friend a birthday present at the very least. And to not have to constantly track the npcs down to talk to them everyday to keep them from friendship decaying back down to complete strangers because I can't just lob a salad at them. It'd be nice if there was at least something to differentiate jealousy inducing gift and just being friendly and handing out freebies like I have been since day 2 of the game (day 1 is usually me chopping down so many trees I pass out at like 3PM) Cause I admit the first time my spouse gave me the grrr reaction I was really thrown back cause I was honestly just doing the same routine of handing out things I normally do and it felt like up until then the game had been all "give folks presents. Give them things and talk to them and get them to like you. Present the shinies to make the friends and that is how you win" and suddenly it was like "ok no wait. Everything we taught you kind of forget part of that. Don't give gifts to these folks because now any gift implies you are romantically interested in them."
               
              • 1Life0Continues

                1Life0Continues Void-Bound Voyager

                Well, no change to this in the new 1.07 patch, but CA did make it so it's impossible to get 10 hearts with the marriage candidates without giving them a bouquet so...that's a thing?

                Here's hoping for 1.08 I guess.
                 
                • weirdee

                  weirdee Big Damn Hero

                  The comprehensive luck thread on the subreddit figured out that jealousy for gifts is....luck based???
                   
                  • scrptrx

                    scrptrx Void-Bound Voyager

                    I loathe the jealous spouse issue. I think it even occurs when giving birthday gifts, which is silly.
                     
                    • I <3 Garrus

                      I <3 Garrus Lucky Number 13

                      After reading through all this I'm actually pretty glad I accidentally zeroed in on Shane on my play through (I've only had the game a few days). Gives me an opportunity to work on everyone else before he becomes a marriage option. I suppose you could play it that way with ANY candidate, but it does indeed seem silly that one has to alter their potential story timeline just to avoid the jealous spouse.

                      I'm on board with folks who had the idea to leave the jealousy in BUT have it only apply to if you literally give a romantic gift. I think that's reasonable.
                       
                      • Relenanator

                        Relenanator Scruffy Nerf-Herder

                        I haven't experienced this since I married Harvey so forgive me if my suggestions sound stupid.

                        I think jealousy only makes sense if you are giving a gift 'outside' of someones birthday, board request, or if the gift is a bouquet.
                        Another way to regulate this is, maybe spouses only get jealous if you give people things they specifically love.
                         
                        • 1wolffan

                          1wolffan Scruffy Nerf-Herder

                          I haven't had that problem with Abby either, but I do give her an amethyst every day the crystalarium pumps one out.
                          I got Haley from 5-8 while married, and I've gotten many of the other candidates up to that point too. But once they max at 8, I don't bother anymore except on birthdays. I completely agree with your idea here. Jealousy could stay, but only flair up for Non-Birthday, and Romantic gifts.
                           
                            Last edited: Aug 15, 2016
                          • ChaosAzeroth

                            ChaosAzeroth Existential Complex

                            Why board requests? o.0
                             
                            • 1wolffan

                              1wolffan Scruffy Nerf-Herder

                              Mistype, Chaos. My brain switched from jealously flares up, to doesn't flare up, right in the middle typing that. I think. Is fixed.
                               
                              • ChaosAzeroth

                                ChaosAzeroth Existential Complex

                                Oh okay.
                                I thought that was another random annoying thing we had to worry about. Already have dips talking to/kissing/gifting every day and ignoring everyone else. :zzz:;
                                I feel like everyone has to be programed to have anxiety and/or depression with how much I put into the relationship and this still happen....
                                 
                                • Corraidhín

                                  Corraidhín Supernova

                                  I am almost 100% sure jealousy does not last... on my previous save I am married to Penny, she is at 13/12 hearts and makes no mention of jealousy or suspicious activities, no matter how many gifts I give to singles. She used to but not anymore.
                                   
                                  • Red_Rose

                                    Red_Rose Phantasmal Quasar

                                    This jealousy I do like it for people who dislike it just wait for the new patch update that allows you to divorce then you can marry the person you wanted to marry but I don't think removing the jealousy is needed win we are getting the divorce.

                                    But that just my thoughts on it everyone has different ideas.
                                     
                                    • ChaosAzeroth

                                      ChaosAzeroth Existential Complex

                                      I did marry the one I wanted on the file I'm referring to.X3 ((My other large file the one for them will never be available and please don't say mod I couldn't to save my life.X3))

                                      It'd the fact that you can do NOTHING wrong and still be screwed over that bothers me. No matter how much I pour into this it just brings me down, it shouldn't be like that anyway but a FAKE relationship to boot...Nah if it weren't for the kids I'd divorce her and stay single it's not worth it in my experience it' too much stress and I am currently avoiding the file like the plague while I deal with IRL issues.X3
                                       
                                      • AdmiralCatbuns

                                        AdmiralCatbuns Space Spelunker

                                        To throw my two cents into it:

                                        I suggest ... making jealousy take place under conditions, as others have said. Bouquets to others would be an instant jealousy causer, but how about..
                                        If there's a sort of in-game deterioration of your spouse's.... 'tolerance' of sorts, say hi to them every day? Give gifts every so often? You're golden- jealousy won't come up.
                                        Don't talk to your spouse? Give more gifts to others than to them? There you go- Jealousy.

                                        I think it'd provide a more real depiction of jealousy. If you neglect them, they're gonna get upset. Your spouse would get jealous about you treating others better than them, not just by treating others nicely.

                                        The 'I won't talk to other _'s' thing seems uncomfortable too. I agree, it makes the player sound controlling. Maybe give dialogue options? To be like- 'Don't worry about it' or 'Go have fun!" or whatever?? I wouldn't want whoever I marry to restrict themselves from talking to their friends... :(

                                        EDIT: I saw this suggestion on another forum, and I think it would be a great way to balance out jealousy. DATES! Give us the ability to have a nice dinner at the bar with our spouse or a picnic on the beach, maybe cozy up and ask them to watch tv with yourself. Maybe going to the secret woods together for a nice stroll. I also saw someone suggest having your spouse's friends come over to visit sometimes. Probably couldn't walk there, or walk out, so maybe having a little cutscene. Maybe they just say Hi when you enter and you can join their conversation, or leave on their own or leave when you go to leave. Something little like that. Maybe your spouse needs reassurance sometimes, just selecting a nice supportive dialogue option or whatever. Maybe your spouse's friends come over to see the new baby, I'd love to see Sam and Abigail and Sebastian still hanging out, playing board games, or Sebastian and Maru meeting up for lunch. Stuff like that. Maybe you can opt to serve a nice dinner for them all :)
                                         
                                          Last edited: Aug 21, 2016
                                        • Dwarfus

                                          Dwarfus Big Damn Hero

                                          Yeah, the jealousy can get really ridiculous. My farmer was at 13 hearts with her husband and the next day she was suddenly at 11 with him. I was really upset and confused and had no idea why this happened. But then I remembered what day it was the day before and was able to put two and two together. I think her husband was literally jealous because she gave EVELYN a birthday present, of all people!
                                           

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