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Pixel are just a nuisance at this point

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by scorcher24, Dec 16, 2013.

  1. scorcher24

    scorcher24 Void-Bound Voyager

    I do not see any point of them atm than to artificially slow you down and make the game more grind heavy.
    Once you have your refinery, Pixels do not matter anymore and it just waiting for the refinery to convert the ores you do not need.

    Normal stuff should not require any pixels to make. They should be rare, found only underground or on bosses and should be exclusively used with the 3D printer which can be used to print stuff like guns. Guns should be removed from Vendors and replaced with Blueprints for the printer. The blueprints should also be lootable.
    There could also be weapon enchants and armor enchants available via the printer in the same way.

    Then it would actually start to make sense.
     
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  2. Sadeyx

    Sadeyx Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    it all makes wonderfull sense when you stop comparing pixels to money. Pixels are a material, using for making things, it isnt money.
     
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  3. Bucketlamp

    Bucketlamp Giant Laser Beams

    Well if you saw the latest update, Pixels can be used to make modern blocks, and soon, likely more. I don't think Pixels are completely useless. Remember, this is an early beta, stage 1. If you're playing the game now you signed on with acknowledgement that this game is incomplete and will, in time, get better.
     
  4. scorcher24

    scorcher24 Void-Bound Voyager

    Stop it. Right there. I know what I am playing and that is why I give feedback. If you don't like it, feel free to read other threads. Thank you.
     
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  5. CyberRaver

    CyberRaver Astral Cartographer

    I have thousands of pixels stashed.... just get a refinery serioulsly
     
  6. Justanzo

    Justanzo Cosmic Narwhal

    Oh boy. This subject again.

    I think the whole point of pixels being a crafting material is to help slow progression between tiers (which are indeed placeholder at the moment). Honestly, it's not even hard to get pixels when you have to many ways to horde them.
     
  7. hunvagy

    hunvagy Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Well as an alternative you could have your 3D printer having an input, where you stuff all the thousands of dirt blocks you mine out along with the ores you need, that are converted to say a matter supply, that you can draw from to create the items with the printer. There you go, easy to get, easy to use.
     
  8. scorcher24

    scorcher24 Void-Bound Voyager

    You two might want to read my post again.
     
  9. Darklight

    Darklight Oxygen Tank

    OH look another clone thread.
     
  10. Litagano Motscoud

    Litagano Motscoud Master Astronaut

    If it's a material, then maybe it should be a tangible item, instead of a counter at the top-right part of the screen...doing that kinda indicates it's some kind of currency.
     
  11. SPOOKS80

    SPOOKS80 Pangalactic Porcupine


    I think no matter how you dress it up its currency to a certain extent, I'm sure if you search hard enough even the devs on this forum will have addressed pixels as currency.

    But yeah, to the OP I think that is a good idea and should be implemented.
     
  12. Justanzo

    Justanzo Cosmic Narwhal

    So you want to get rid of pixels entirely from crafting, change it so that you can no longer purchase the somewhat crappy guns from vendors, and make it so that you have to run dungeons, fight bosses and spelunk to collect 3D-printer specific blueprints for various weapons and elemental effects.

    I don't disagree with this, but I also feel that it doesn't provide enough options.
     
  13. Croyd

    Croyd Big Damn Hero

    I believe as we go along and they start expanding out the content the pixels will level out.

    I agree, not everyone is going to want to do the dungeon grind.
     
  14. Darklight

    Darklight Oxygen Tank

    Funny. The compressor does JUSt that
     
  15. Kyuikaru

    Kyuikaru Aquatic Astronaut

    I like the blueprint idea for guns, but to take it a step further, there could be slots for additional crafting materials to be added in so that your weapon may get a variety of modifiers depending on the additional materials used. 1- slots would be a good number to start, I'd say. As for the weapon's stats, they could be variable from a set of numbers like 10-20 damage per shot so that you didn't always get cookie cutter stats and such. It'd make the process more interesting that just making vanilla weapons all day, every day.

    As for where blueprints could come from, vendors could have a small variety of them with the most rare of blueprints being in dungeons and such. Why else would you need the most legendary weapons if you aren't dungeon crawling, y'know? Cosmetics, maybe, but you could always trade with someone else for the blueprint.

    Boss monsters and mini-bosses could also have a variable chance to drop blueprints for specific weapons and a range suitable to their difficulties.
     
  16. Litagano Motscoud

    Litagano Motscoud Master Astronaut

    But I don't think those are usable in crafting
     
  17. Maahes

    Maahes Starship Captain

    That and the fact you use them to buy stuff.
     
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  18. OBITWIZZLE

    OBITWIZZLE Poptop Tamer

    Stop it right there. If you read their beta phasing you would have seen the part where it says (paraphrasing) "If you're looking for the COMPLETE Starbound experience, DO NOT play beta phase 1".
     
  19. scorcher24

    scorcher24 Void-Bound Voyager

    Jesus Christ.
    The whole point of a beta is to give feedback.
    So please, for the love of Death Metal, please stop telling me that I cannot give feedback, because it is not true.
    Thank you.

    @everyone
    Guys, as I wrote above: Right now, Pixels are just a necessary resource that you can get otherwise by refining the really abundant ores like Gold and Silver. You can get Tons of pixels while just searching for ores. That is why I say, it is only a problem in the beginning. After the initial 2-3 hours there is no challenge whatsoever. I also think of Terraria, where you didn't need the money necessarily, only to buy some additional stuff from vendors.
    It is a poorly implemented game mechanic and not fun.

    Making it really rare enables the devs to make you reap some benefits from having them. Like armor enchants and such. I like this idea a whole lot better than how it is right now.
     
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  20. NFossil

    NFossil Phantasmal Quasar

    Used for making things in 3D printing.
    Not being hammered on an anvil.
     

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