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Pandering to newbies

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by Akiflyer, Dec 23, 2013.

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  1. Bucketlamp

    Bucketlamp Giant Laser Beams

    I don't see how this is pandering to newbies. Sure you get free home teleports, but at the same time they've made it harder to survive in airless environments. The whole free teleport system is to make home planets MEAN something. I also hope this doesn't eventually degrade into yet another hardcore/casual argument.
     
  2. The Marvelous Magoon

    The Marvelous Magoon Big Damn Hero

    What the hell are you talking about?
    Oh. Oh I think I see. You and all other elitists are trying to play Starbound like it's an MMORPG.
    That explains the desire for an endless grind and unfair difficulty that encourages you spend money so you don't have to do it the tedious way.
     
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  3. The | Suit

    The | Suit Agent S. Forum Moderator

    Did I ever say I wanted to grind?
    I just said it should be hard.

    As for Making you spend money. Casuals will spend the money to avoid grind. More funds for starbound :)
     
  4. Kyrosiris

    Kyrosiris Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Most of the original post is "waaaaah things aren't tedious", so... yes?
     
  5. Bothria

    Bothria Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Yes, so much. I can't imagine the mindset that views release Starbound as 'hard but fair.'

    There are many F2P games that do not have cosmetic items, or even microtransactions of any sort, that are in no danger of dying anytime soon. Nor would many of them qualify as casual dreams come true.
     
  6. Meanbeans

    Meanbeans Star Wrangler

    Perhaps, OP, going to the suggestion forums and giving advice/suggestions of what you want to see would be more constructive of your time. I am not sure I see the point of childish insults (calling others weaklings) and being angry when clearly the game is still developing. I think they'd rather you give your suggestions and report bugs. Try going about it a different way =)
     
  7. The Marvelous Magoon

    The Marvelous Magoon Big Damn Hero

    Difficulty doesn't work this way.
     
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  8. The | Suit

    The | Suit Agent S. Forum Moderator

    Never knew I wrote the original post.
     
  9. Kyrosiris

    Kyrosiris Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    You're agreeing with it, aren't you?
     
  10. Freakscar

    Freakscar Phantasmal Quasar

    I think you misunderstood the reaction: Nobody denies the need for an open discussion about difficulty settings or similar topics. But once someone wants to brute force his opinion as sole reasonable path to a "good game" and does this by preemptively insulting anyone that disagrees with him, there are some posters among this forum (myself included, btw), that simply prefer to take part in a more.. mature discussion elsewhere and ignore the foaming at mouth OP. He made a very valid point and blasted it from orbit with the sentence in question. Well, at least that's my reason to ignore him. ;)
     
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  11. ThatSwordGuy

    ThatSwordGuy Void-Bound Voyager

    There comes a point where you're playing video games for entirely the wrong reasons.
     
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  12. The Marvelous Magoon

    The Marvelous Magoon Big Damn Hero

    Oh my god, get out of here with this. You aren't some enlightened being because you want the game to rub shit in your teeth.
     
  13. The | Suit

    The | Suit Agent S. Forum Moderator

    I agree the game is easy.
    I never said I wanted to grind.

    People can agree with statements without accepting the whole thing.
    Humans have developed that skill a while back.
    Time to play catchup.
     
  14. velkrai

    velkrai Master Chief

    The game became signifigantly more fair, for example my new defaulted homeworld all the water is a mixture of poison and lava surface pools. If i had to fight bullet spongey mobs ontop of that Id be a bit mad.

    On that note If this game does get grindy as it appears a few people in this thread call for it will lose a huge chunk of playability and actual solid gameplay.
     
  15. Kherazov

    Kherazov Poptop Tamer

    You may think whatever you want, but claiming that anyone who isn't as good as you is just bad is pure arrogance, and it's entirely unneeded.

    I'm sure you make a valid point. As I said, I've seen a few other posts about the game being too easy. Pointless name callings and degrading is entirely unnecessary.

    You think the game is too easy? Good. Speak out. The game is in Beta, and devs need to know what players think before they release it. But don't start freely insulting players who disagree with your point of view.
     
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  16. Arcadiax

    Arcadiax Phantasmal Quasar

    Apparently playing for fun isn't a valid playstyle anymore, who knew.
     
  17. StarWeaver

    StarWeaver Pangalactic Porcupine

    There are even strings for difficulty levels in one of the config files.

    Also the home teleport just brings solo play up to team play's convenience -- since in multiplayer you can cross-sector instaport to anyone in your party's spaceship, with two people you have unlimited home access anyway.
     
  18. Kyrosiris

    Kyrosiris Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    If time-consuming tedium is "fun" to you, you should find a nice sadist to settle down with in order to appeal to your masochism.
     
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  19. The Marvelous Magoon

    The Marvelous Magoon Big Damn Hero

    When it means being absolutely against the game being made more enjoyable for those who don't have the same playstyle as you, yeah, it isn't.

    The teleport to home planet thing is a nonissue, you don't have to use it.

    Overly aggressive falling damage is usually bad form to have in a 2D anything.

    I can understand taking issue with easier monsters, but no one is asking for them all to be Goomba-level tossers.
     
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  20. ThatSwordGuy

    ThatSwordGuy Void-Bound Voyager

    I believe he's agreeing with me, that tedious fake difficulty isn't fun and it's stupid to act like playing any other way makes you not a true gamer.
     
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