Not solar systems.

Discussion in 'Planets and Environments' started by Vilar, Feb 10, 2014.

  1. Vilar

    Vilar Aquatic Astronaut

    I propose to diversify the star map the various celestial bodies.

    In image two new systems are shown:
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    1. Nebula. Space wars are very destructive. Many aggressive races had the technologies turning stars into a dust.
    Of course there are and technology, which can keep planets in this nebula.
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    On the planets hanging already many years still, the eternal day.
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    On images only real photo, and the work of artists will be more appropriate.

    2. Black hole. The stars are not eternal, and at the end of life they can turn into black holes. Don't know why save the planet at the periphery of the system, because there is only one eternal night and cold. Maybe nostalgia on the homeland, or expensive equipment, occupying half of the planet...
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    3. Coordinates without binding. If in the fuel tank of 400 or more fuels, the spacecraft gives the opportunity to fly to any space on the star map. There may be void. Simply enter the coordinates, and then press GO.
    There can be hidden planets, stations, or fleets of spaceships. But space is infinite, and coordinates have yet to learn.

    p.s. Sorry for the grammar. :whistle:
     
  2. Sophia Aetheria

    Sophia Aetheria Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    I just want to point out that any world without an actual star to orbit around it is going to be so insanely cold it would be lethal to set foot upon. Furthermore, destruction of a star would mean destruction of the solar system itself, meaning you'd get rogue planets and such, rather than a bunch of planets you could simply keep hanging around in a nebula. Plus, no light. That's pretty major.

    As for black holes... There's this thing called the accretion disc around a black hole, and the closer something gets to this point, the more likely it is to be torn to pieces by the gravity of the black hole. So having a planet in a close orbit around a black hole, while a cool idea, is also kind of physically impossible. Now, an asteroid field made of the freshly destroyed remnants of a planet is of course possible. Carrying on with black holes... the closer you get to them, the weirder things get, with relativistic effects causing the flow of time and the nature of space itself to distort. So, I could see black hole environments being a thing, just not with planets, and with really really weird things going on. I don't know that the area around a black hole has any heat, however. So it'd likely have the same lethality problem as a lone nebula.
     
  3. Vilar

    Vilar Aquatic Astronaut

    I understand it perfectly(on this and wrote that the life of planets and the glow plasma supported technologies developed race)
    But you forget one thing: This game. And in real life such huge moon, so close to the planet would simply would explode into pieces.

    I know that a black hole can emit only a quasar. But on the spaceship we see the schematic map of the universe. And on it we can identify black holes even pink elephants.

    The black hole has gravity. Just very, very strong. But this gravity is compensated by the small size of the hole. And far from her planet theoretically can revolve around it in its orbit. If outlive hypernova explosion.

    p.s Look http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/10/131009153455.htm (if this site is prohibited to give a link, sorry. I delete)
     
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  4. Cipherstar

    Cipherstar Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    I imaging walking around an planet orbiting a black hole (For arguments sake supporting that the planet managed to gain such a stable orbit and avoid being torn to shreds) would be like moving around at higher speed in the Speed of Light game, or walking around Skyrim with FOV turned up to 300+ or something. Distortions such as that.

    Or lets say the planet is stable because SCIENCE, and the planet is defended. So the planet appears normal, but looking up at the stars would be a pretty sight. A warped out trippy as fk pretty sight where you could see everything just within the space above you, that star to the left there actually being behind the planet you're on.

    Black holes can be fun. But most of it is theoretical. One thing is sure though, it wouldn't be anything normal.
     
  5. Vilar

    Vilar Aquatic Astronaut

    Just need to not give a black hole to increase in mass, and the impact on distant objects will be no more than the former stars. The hole mass is the same, so gravity is the same.
     
  6. Kapul

    Kapul Space Penguin Leader

    I was intending on making a thread myself addressing the starmap, I agree with this. Anyway to address some issues
    there is a book that uses a lone planet earth as its setting and is supported by MATH its called "A Pail of Air" And i would just like to say that lone planets can maintain heat, first off it can only loss heat by radiation and that is a slow process so a planet like ours if it became a lone planet could keep livable temperatures for maybe a few weeks (not very long but starbound has no pressure on time) But if the planet has a large moon it could build up heat with the tidal pull and if the planet had significant geological movement a liveable temperature could exist around those areas (volcanoes, hot springs, etc...)

    And regarding Black holes I know planets would not orbit it period but i don't see why planets can not be pull straight into it, what i am saying is in starbound planets have a drawn orbit but they don't move along it so why not planets around a black hole just not have drawn orbits? it can be assumed they are being pulled in but it never has to happen.
     
  7. thefrozenone

    thefrozenone Master Chief

    Just so everyone knows, black holes have the same mass/gravity (except beyond the event horizon) as the star they were created from, they are just EXTREMELY dense. If our sun turned into a black holes right now, the orbits of the planets would stay the same.

    The real problems with having a planet orbiting a black hole in game is that there would be no daylight, you wouldn't be able to see the black hole, and the planets would be icy barren rocks just like normal moons.
     
  8. Kapul

    Kapul Space Penguin Leader

    Yes a black hole has the same gravity as the star it came from but for a star to become a black hole it has to reach a certain mass, and that means the gravity will be so high that unless a significant distance away the only things that could orbit a black hole is light. Planets that are being pulled to a black hole can maintain heat considering geothermic activity and any tidal pull form satellites, the black hole would also be pulling radiation form a wide area so the planet could be bombarded by that (if that worked day would be the side of the planet facing away from the black hole, kinda neat!) any way they don't have to be icy barren rocks.
    Also I don't see a lack of day or a barren landscape as a problem in starbound, and even if not everyone likes it starbound is big enough that you would never have to encounter it.
     
  9. thefrozenone

    thefrozenone Master Chief

    Of course, but these planets would have more than likely been orbiting the star before it ever had become a black hole, so objects "falling into them" is virtually null. Black holes don't change mass.

    Geothermal heat is not nearly enough to keep a planet warm for more than a few weeks. The core might be still molten, but the surface with be uninhabitable like a dead moon.

    The problem is that you wouldn't 'see' the black hole. Black holes aren't black, that are 'nothing'. They would be completely invisible and you would be unable to find them on the starmap.
     
  10. Vilar

    Vilar Aquatic Astronaut

    Why? The star map not a photo of the galaxy. It is drawn vehicle on-Board system image.

    Imagine ocean trenches, where never shines in the sunlight. They are not influenced by the heat in the air. But there is life. Life can survive in almost any environment.

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    (couldn't redraw the trees, and the lava.)
     

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