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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by tccoxon, Jul 8, 2014.

  1. tccoxon

    tccoxon Procedurally Generated Programmer

    Hello everyone!

    I've been developing Lenna's Inception in my spare time for two and a half years, but even before that, it was a game I'd wanted to see get made for a long time.

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    Lenna's Inception is an action-adventure game with a Game-Boy-Color-like look to it. The gameplay, like Zelda, Anodyne and Ittle Dew, involves action-based combat segments, seeking out new items and upgrades, and solving simple puzzles. What sets Lenna's Inception apart is that the world is procedurally generated and different every time you play!

    Features
    • Huge procedurally generated world, different every time you play
    • 7 permadeath challenges with an online leaderboard
    • Pets that offer to fight alongside you with their own AI
    • Game Boy-style pixel art with occasional gory scenes
    • Meaningful narrative (still under heavy development)
    • Chiptune soundtrack composed by Warfreak2


    If you want to follow my progress on this game, here are a bunch of links for you:
    And I'll be popping into these forums regularly too!

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    If any of you have questions, just ask away! I'm really looking forward to chatting with you all.

    Welcome to the new forums. :D
     
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    • Zaragan

      Zaragan Void-Bound Voyager

      Good work!! I'll test it later! It looks good!!
       
      • tccoxon

        tccoxon Procedurally Generated Programmer

        Would love to know what you think after you give it a try! :)
         
        • Aimay

          Aimay Big Damn Hero

          I've given it a try and here's a quick report, not sure what I did one turn but somehow the menu opened up whilst I was fighting a blob and it hit quit without save, there should be a prompt for that and the action button shouldn't be the button you use for items.
          For some reason the game uses like 80% of my CPU at all times. No idea why but it does make for some super laggy gameplay. Not annoyed but the loading of a new level does take like >5 minutes.
          I've had 5 different worlds now and on the last one the game crashed, gave me an error report but I had been trying to play for like 40 minutes and that was the last straw, I'm going to go have a drink, come back and try like twice more.
          Also, the whole meta aspect with the character talking about the devs? Really? Fairly immersion breaking when used straight away, you could have just left that out and had her just think the librarian might help.
          Also, the books, not a complaint but she's a teacher but she can't read? Ancient books sure but she doesn't even comment on the book being in another language? And she knows the librarian but I had to go like a bijillion squares once to find the place. She travels through that everytime? How did the kids get there? Armed escort?
          Just nitpicking now cos I'm in need of coffee.

          Sorry if this comes off as snappy, looks like a great game, just needs some optimisation.

          EDIT: Just opened another world, was quicker loading but eh, got outside, got through the first part of the text but when I went to hit Q it actually opened the menu halfway through the talking and crashed the game, couldn't move, this happened before with another save where I died and halfway through the animation it crashed.
          And another nitpick, if there's water two squares down from a door you instantly fall into it. Annoying waste of life points.

          EDIT 2: And now simply saving crashed me. I'm stopping now. I feel cheated, this is a beta but if you had an alpha stage with even decent testers these sort of bugs shouldn't be present. I've made 7 worlds now and disregarding 1 death that crashed me even on perma and that one time the controls messed up and exited me because of no prompt, I've crashed. The furthest I've got is to the Librarian, he crashed me. Come on, get some better testers.
           
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          • Shylight

            Shylight Scruffy Nerf-Herder

            Well, one thing that needs fixing is Esc closing the game while the map is open. Didn't expect that, lost the world. Some sort of autosave (even if toggleable) on non-permadeath runs would be nice as well.
             
            • Aimay

              Aimay Big Damn Hero

              The controls are odd too, they're sort of a mix between old Zelda games and nowaday versions, it makes it really hard to attack or defend against anything without getting hurt. You have to position your swings just right but if you're on the wrong tile or facing the wrong way it just goes kaput.

              The fix I'd suggest is allowing the player to move diagonally and face diagonally. Either that or just go back to the tile based movement system.
               
              • Katzeus

                Katzeus Chucklefisherman Chucklefish

                Welcome to the forums! I love the aesthetic you've used, game looks really cool! Looking forward to giving it a try
                 
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                • dazzoe

                  dazzoe Void-Bound Voyager

                  I would love to play this, but for some reason when i open the game on my windows 7. it spams my default browser, no matter which it is, by opening new tabs constantly, like 50 tabs every 4-5seconds, and opens up like 30 seperate firefoxes. i would love to play this but currently i cant and i dont know why :( its the only game that does this. its never happened on any other game i own. please help, and i dont know where else to post this, cause its fairly new.
                   
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                  • sankto

                    sankto Pangalactic Porcupine

                    Aye, i'm getting the same problem as Dazzoe (i'm also on Win7, 64bits edition). I'll experiment a bit more and see if i can pinpoint the source of the problem.

                    EDIT : Running the ".bat" file give me a nice little window telling me that java7 isn't installed.
                    Running the ".jar" file directly kinda show me the game, but it start spamming my browser.
                    I tried to change the ".bat" file to :

                    "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7\bin\java.exe" -jar lennasinception.jar

                    (considering that java.exe does exist), to no avail. It goes straight to madly opening tabs in firefox.
                     
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                    • atrociousChicken

                      atrociousChicken Master Chief

                      I've got the same browser-spamming problem and have no way to play the game.

                      Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
                      java version "1.8.0_05"
                      Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_05-b13)
                      Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.5-b02, mixed mode)

                      Java does work as I'm able to 1) find & run Java from the command prompt and 2) I can run other Java applications without an issue (eg Minecraft).
                       
                      • combat0

                        combat0 Void-Bound Voyager

                        The same is happening to me as well, same install directory, same version of Java.
                         
                        • tccoxon

                          tccoxon Procedurally Generated Programmer

                          So sorry about the browser spamming thing! Really sorry! I misconfigured my server when redirecting certain URLs to the new website at lennasinception.com. The launcher thought you were opening a link to an external site and popped up your browser. It's fixed now.

                          Aimay, thanks for your feedback. I'll reply in more detail in a moment.
                           
                          • tccoxon

                            tccoxon Procedurally Generated Programmer

                            Again, thanks for your feedback. It's very helpful.

                            OK, so I think what happened is that you hit the right-shift key, which currently brings up the save menu. Esc does the same thing, so I'll just remove the right shift-key mapping.

                            Could you email me the crash logs? I treat crashes with highest priority. If I can get hold of that log and find out what's causing the crash, I'll push out an update ASAP. bytten.games@gmail.com

                            That's temporary, and it's going away as soon as I've added the Palace location.

                            Yes, this needs to make more sense :)

                            It's been in open alpha for about a year, and nobody has reported these problems before. (Which makes me appreciate your feedback all that much more.)

                            I need to get to the bottom of this. Can you email me the crash logs?
                             
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                            • tccoxon

                              tccoxon Procedurally Generated Programmer

                              One more thing that might help you Aimay - edit start.bat to this:

                              Code:
                              java -Xmx1024m -Dsun.java2d.opengl=True -Dsun.java2d.d3d=false -Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true -jar lennasinception.jar
                              
                              There's a good chance that'll improve the 80% CPU situation you're seeing. Let me know if that helps.
                               
                              • Aimay

                                Aimay Big Damn Hero

                                Is the crash log saved somewhere in the .jar file? I didn't save it myself or send it, I assumed you had a ton of testers already and 1 more file wouldn't have mattered.

                                And you should definitely get some better testers, you'll probably get more now though which is good. Also, I tried to reproduce the save crashing on perma after turning like my entire computer down to basics and it seems it crashed because of the game taking freaking ages to save. I literally just started watching a 20 minute video whilst it had 'crashed' and around 17 minutes in it said it saved...

                                EDIT: Using the start.bat file doesn't work for me, even though I'm on windows, I've been running the .jar file through java directly. No idea why the start.bat file wont work so... Yeah.

                                EDIT 2: Also, should the use of ctrl and left shift be told? If I had known that sooner combat could have been a lot easier.
                                 
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                                • tccoxon

                                  tccoxon Procedurally Generated Programmer

                                  The log isn't saved, and absolutely nobody else has reported this. I need you copy the log into a text file and attach that to an email. It would also be helpful to know what your machine's specs are and whether the above change to start.bat helps.

                                  Thanks.
                                   
                                  • Aimay

                                    Aimay Big Damn Hero

                                    One second, let me send you a PM, will be a lot easier and less intrusive for this thread.
                                     
                                    • Pixelstomp

                                      Pixelstomp Scruffy Nerf-Herder

                                      It looks swagtastic!

                                      Chucklefish has been getting so many awesome games recently. o.o
                                       
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                                      • combat0

                                        combat0 Void-Bound Voyager

                                        Thanks for the fix! I will be streaming your game right now actually! twitch.tv/combat0
                                         
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                                        • dazzoe

                                          dazzoe Void-Bound Voyager

                                          Yea :) Thanks for the fix.
                                           

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