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New Patch: Fuel

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by Elate, Dec 10, 2013.

  1. RizzRustbolt

    RizzRustbolt Existential Complex

    I just don't see the need to remove it though. Just change it from it's 2:1 ratio to something more rigorous like 4:1 or even 10:1.

    Or even just add in the extra step of crafting a still first and having it made at the metalwork station.
    Like a nano-separator upgrade for the matter manipulator?
     
  2. smilebug

    smilebug Poptop Tamer

    From what I read in another post, there is rumors of laser mining guns?
     
  3. splatomat

    splatomat Seal Broken

    BACCHUS! The Mr. Fusion is exactly what I figured the fuel system was. I tried wood originally, and was delighted to see it gave fuel. Coal? Yep! Wow, how fun. Toss in the trash I would otherwise delete to go places. Bananas poison me! That's ok, I'll throw them in the Mr. Fusion! All these "crappy" weapons that are worse than my starter sword? Toss them in the Mr. Fusion!

    Options options options! But I guess wanting variety and flexibility is wanting instant gratification and ignoring the story and ZZZZZZZZZZ.... sorry, fell asleep from the sermon I was giving.
     
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  4. Leonorai

    Leonorai The Court

    Read the patch notes, they gave you enough fuel variety. Just not wood, now quit acting like an infant.
    Your sarcasm is not as sharp as you think it is.
     
  5. JFoxx64

    JFoxx64 Big Damn Hero

    Alright, so now you can smelt logs into coal on Starbound. Added the smelting recipe to my mod. Costs 10 logs per 1 coal.
     
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  6. RizzRustbolt

    RizzRustbolt Existential Complex

    But I don't want to abandon my Mat-mip. :(

    It's neato and ah luv it.
    Somebody's a little grumpy...
     
  7. smilebug

    smilebug Poptop Tamer

    I love the mat-mip too!
     
  8. ecips

    ecips Void-Bound Voyager

    So here I am... with a crappy starter planet and hardly ANY coal without diggin for like hours - and I can't even get off the planet because I have a hard time finding 25 coal.
    Seriously, I want to explore - I do not like my starting planet. Who the heck had the idea to un-fuel wood? :(
     
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  9. jintonic

    jintonic Space Hobo

    wood as fuel , wood burnance > coal
    trees > sapling > grow trees > wood > burnance > coal
    axe upgrades > more wood collected from chopping tree
    lumberjack "tech" aka modification > grant more wood when chopping down trees
    more coal dropped per block mined > 1 block mined drop 2~10 coal totally random and not 10 be lowest rate and 2 highest no casino pls
    mining any block chance to get 10% coal
    particle converter >input junk > output coal
    particle condenser > input coal > output high density fuel (has very high fuel value, higher than solarium)
    -------------------------->input uran > high density uran fuel > even higher value
    -------------------------->input solarium > high density solarium fuel> most superior fuel value


    solar panes >installed on planet > work during day > require energy gems (rockriders from lego , green one gems)
    solar panels charge the gems , jump to ship put intro engine > u get engine charged >output empty energy gem (dark colored)
    use empty gem on solar to charge it again

    well i can continue but not worth it....
     
  10. karabeep

    karabeep Poptop Tamer

    well considering the starting quest line is about how u are stranded with no fuel and are trying to contact another ship for help ....it seems damn good to lose the wood.... ur stranded work for your freedom
    god as if the game isnt easy enough without being handed a trip off the planet u are meant to be stranded on
     
  11. Leonorai

    Leonorai The Court

    Of all the things, i'd never have imagined people would get so hung up on this subject.
     
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  12. Quark

    Quark Big Damn Hero

    Yeah, something like that.
    Which is exactly what we're doing, so I fail to see what you're saying. :B People are discussing the idea that it doesn't work. It's okay if you disagree with that idea, but don't try to nullify their argument by saying that we're not allowed to beta test this beta.

    The changes they make aren't going to be because they "please the community", it's because the community pointed out a flaw/good idea that they decided to change/improve upon, making the game as a whole better. If you don't like the changes, discuss and dispute them, don't pretend every change they make is set in stone. This is the process of a beta development as they make changes. In the end, not everyone will get what they want, but a better product will be made as a result of our combined opinions.
     
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  13. RizzRustbolt

    RizzRustbolt Existential Complex

    People got to zoom around a fictional universe at their leisure, and then it got harder. People get serious when they get to go fast.
     
  14. Leonorai

    Leonorai The Court

    How does coal as a fuel not work exactly? All i see is a slew of posts saying "i don't want to mine, rocket me towards the action please".
     
  15. th3rmyte

    th3rmyte Void-Bound Voyager

    yes because thats what many of us prefer. is a sand box and we are being boxed in to mining in a game billed as "freedom to do what you want".
     
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  16. Exes

    Exes Intergalactic Tourist

    I actually didn't that you could even use wood for fuel but yet was always completely fine and had more fuel than I needed.
     
  17. Frabby

    Frabby Intergalactic Tourist

    This could be the solution, but I think the ratio would have to be more like 25:1 or 50:1 for coal or other fuel ores to ever be used over wood.
     
  18. Leonorai

    Leonorai The Court

    Sandbox is not a code word for ultimate freedom. You follow the game's rules or you modify them.
    Sandbox means you get to stray from the main storyline, you're not told go here and here only.

    People seem to have given the word their own meaning which is "don't touch anything and give me as many options as possible". That's not how game development works.
     
  19. Mystify

    Mystify Void-Bound Voyager

    Funny, when I said I wanted to mine I was told the opposite
     
  20. RizzRustbolt

    RizzRustbolt Existential Complex

    If they add more decorative block types in the future, then I could see that much being necessary. But as it stands now, you have to choose between either build that 10 mile high statue of Bender, or jumping to the next planet to get materials.
    You're thinking of an "open-world" style game. Like Saints Row, or the lego games.
     

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