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My Dissapointments With Starbound

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by The Phantom Lemon, Dec 31, 2013.

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  1. DrPhibes

    DrPhibes Pangalactic Porcupine

    Your post was exactly what was looking for and I agree with a lot of things you mentioned. One of the first things that crossed my mind when I heard about Starbound many moons ago (22?) was how they will make us build bases and not hop from planet to planet.
     
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  2. The Phantom Lemon

    The Phantom Lemon Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    There have been a lot of great comments in this thread better articulating and expanding upon the views in the original post, along with a fair amount of additional concerns voiced and topical discussion on the validity of our collection of concerns. I'm tempted to re-write and reformat the original post to better reflect the consensus of this thread's populous and perhaps promote further constructive input. For the last eight pages to make sense I'd of course put the original in a spoiler tag at the foot.
    I'm not entirely convinced it's a good idea, though. Perhaps a new thread may be more suitable. I don't know, what you you guys think?
     
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  3. dragonbrad

    dragonbrad Void-Bound Voyager

    I don't think there's a rule against updating your original post. So do that. It would be kind of pointless to create a whole new thread that's basically the same as this one.
     
  4. kirbunkle

    kirbunkle Tentacle Wrangler

    I'm going to post here instead of creating another thread as the original post voices my thoughts about this game completely.

    This game needs a serious overhaul in its mechanics as soon as possible before it settles like this. I worry that what would have been an amazing game will have its potential squandered due to overemphasis on quantity and "variation".

    ... I mean not to ramble but... SERIOUSLY... I've really only ever explored at most 2 planets per sector... why do you provide me millions to choose from??
     
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  5. GameQB11

    GameQB11 Phantasmal Quasar

    Yes, we need QUALITY over randomized quantity. Personally, i wouldnt have mind if we got one really big planet full of content and civs, and used the FTL only as a slick integrated way to reroll world and experience a different take on things with its creature variations. Other than that, traveling planets feel like a reroll of the same content anyway, only with 1/3 of the content locked away for another reroll. It feels like generating a world in Terraria with ONLY a jungle biome, then needing to reroll just to get to ice.
     
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  6. Wizaerd

    Wizaerd Astral Cartographer

    Reporting bugs is valid for the pages you suggest. Game discussion and suggestions really don't belong on a bug reporting page as they're not technically bugs. And calling someone an ignorant fool really isn't called for either.
     
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  7. The Phantom Lemon

    The Phantom Lemon Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    right, I think I'll get on this tomorrow.
    Nothing I mentioned was even close to a bug, and the suggestion board seems to exist specifically for suggesting things like a new item or new mechanic. Neither were as appropriate. I'm sorry that I'm cluttering the general discussion board with stuff you don't want to read, but that's kind of what you should expect in any General Discussion. But now you know the title of the thread and when browsing the forums you can skip it if you wish and go on to the next post. If that's too much of a hassle you can try to talk to the forum admins about a new forum section. Either way you'll be being more productive than you are now.
     
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  8. cyldman

    cyldman Void-Bound Voyager

    OP could you edit your post and add some suggestions to fix your issues? while i agree with you, I'm pretty sure with some alternatives and such they might consider your post and/or take some ideas from it.
     
  9. The Phantom Lemon

    The Phantom Lemon Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Sure thing.
     
  10. icon2020

    icon2020 Orbital Explorer

    Can we get this back on the rails please?
     
  11. Cazakatari

    Cazakatari Void-Bound Voyager

    I've read the forum off and on, and it seems there are some people who say ''OMG YOU RUINED THE GAME,'' and way too many others who say ''DON"T CRITICIZE THE HOLINESS THAT IS STARBOUND.'' Exaggerating of course but that seems to be the 2 causes of strife

    That said, this thread was neither of these and quite civil, I agree with the points and hope the developers will notice and do the best they can
     
  12. Spike

    Spike Supernova

    Starbound is literally a newborn baby, and the Devs will most likely give the game a complete overhaul by the release. I won't hold hope that the Devs will make everything better; maybe the weapons mechanics will never change, perhaps the mob AI will remain the way it is, and perhaps item crafting may never be improved.... but I'm sure Tiy will give us surprises by the time the game pumps out its final update, and the final product is hopefully likable by most.
     
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  13. Ludovic

    Ludovic Giant Laser Beams

    You mustn't forget that when Tiy said that, this was back when they still had no intentions of hosting a public beta, yet were pressured by players to do so with claims of "Minecraft did it, after all!"

    Finally, they relented when they admited they wished to run one after all, so they could get players input on how to go ahead if I recall well. Which in my eyes sound like it implies they didn't have as much features than they would have liked, but wanted players inputs to see how they could indeed "flesh things out" around the frame of the game(which, actually, is not that far off from Terraria's gameplay.... back when Terraria had originally been released and was still lacking many biomes/bosses and so on).
     
  14. Camelslayer

    Camelslayer Cosmic Narwhal

    As the game stands, it's currently JUST exploring and mining, and showing off the quantity.
    The quality is something that I'd be more worried about with the Phase 2 Beta, personally; they're working out the kinks obviously with the most basic of basics, but pretty sure we'll see some improvement later on.

    At least I hope so; but that's why we're testing.


    Hopefully, though some of the people here clearly don't understand that it is new, and the purpose of testing is for the sake of feedback. We have the game right now to make it better.
     
  15. Neonir

    Neonir Big Damn Hero

    I think another thing that is needed is some form of...direction? That, and an insentive to explore.

    As it is, once you reach the final tier, you're kind of...done. Huzzah, you've mined fancy minerals and got fancy eqipment.. now go build a house somewhere. Enjoy.

    Which is nice, sure, I mean, people like building and this game gives you HEAPS to build with.

    But at the same time, the progression of the game feels hollow when you dont give it any form of impact, you reach the next level, congrats, now you can start working towards the next level.

    Why?

    So you can get more powerful, so you can fight the same enemies, in a more powerful setting.

    There needs to be some sense of achievement, some sense of "okay, now that I've got <x>, I can finally <y>!" when y isn't "fight tougher dudes", a feeling of unlocking something new, something that changes things.

    That, and perhaps a sense of urgency. One thing that strikes me are the tentacle planets.

    If by chance they can spread, perhaps a battle can be created involving fighting the spread of tentacles give a sense of urgency, give a sense of an ongoing battle, involve some sort reward system for progressing other than the ability to progress through a slightly altered amout of more of the same.

    Also, there needs to be a more real benefit to exploring. Because, if you're unlike me and dont enjoy exploring for its own sake, then you're going to see a few of the different planets, say 'meh' and then just progress through the game, get the things you want

    Include random events that can take place, involve catastrophic disasters, incredible unlikely events, wonderous but brief meetings with well known lore characters, give people something to look for, to hope for.

    Perhaps have interesting new game mechanics be avaliable to those who fight the right thing, or to those who look hard enough for it. (the first thing that comes to mind is some form of great 'world forge' tool, which would use vast numbers of pixels to let you custom build a planet for yourself. And maybe a similar set of world changing tools, perhaps one to add oceans, one to change the make up of an already existing planet, one to create your very own life forms, all found on some ancient alters on tier 10 but completely flat and empty dead worlds in some special looking chest

    Create new and diverse abilities, new gameplay oppotunities, for those who search or work hard for them, rather than just the exact same game they've been playing from the start, only a bit faster and a bit harder.
     
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  16. Balmer

    Balmer Big Damn Hero

    But haven't you been reading the forums? It's beta, no feedback of that kind is valid zomg!!11!!11
     
  17. penguin055

    penguin055 Pangalactic Porcupine

    :wtf:
     
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  18. ilis

    ilis Phantasmal Quasar

    i dont know what else to call him
    he is a boyfriend not a person
     
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  19. Neonir

    Neonir Big Damn Hero

    I can testify that this is the correct termanage for boyfriends/girlfriends when reffering to them online.
    To simply say 'boyfriend' or 'girlfriend' is disrespectful to both the girlfriend thing and those listening.
     
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  20. ilis

    ilis Phantasmal Quasar

    is this the next big thing
    soon i will be on the hellish degenerates show
    or dancing through the stars
    or the coalbert report
    or some other maybe reference to starbound
     
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