Morality, automation, and scaling.

Discussion in 'Blocks and Crafting' started by Pseudoboss, May 11, 2013.

  1. Pseudoboss

    Pseudoboss Spaceman Spiff

    One of the things I want from this game, and I think this game seems to be inclined to have; is going from the small scale to the completely enormous scale.

    Something like a one-man fighter crashes on a new planet, and needs to get back spacefaring capabilities, In order to do so, this wanderer needs a mere half of a gram of refined Deuterium to reach orbit. Obtaining that half of a gram of Deuterium feels like a massive accomplishment. But so much more is to come.

    Once able to reach space, our wanderer realizes just how much Deuterium is going to be needed, now he needs to scale up his operations. Fortunately, we now have a ready source of Deuterium, The moon! Without an atmosphere to catch the stuff, it falls on the surface of the planet, where it is easy to scoop up and refine. Now, our wanderer has a kilogram of Deuterium and can reach past the moon, onward to a new planet, the entire system is open to us! (Provided we are careful to stock enough Deuterium for the return trip, or bring some refining tools with us.)

    But the wanderer isn't sated, he wants to reach other systems, tame them, add them to his own. And realizes that the tonnes of Deuterium required for such ambitions would need an automated process, and begins working on robots to do the scooping and refining for him, while he constructs the ship that would accomplish the feat, employing other robots to scan and replicate parts of the ship, because the amount of food and equipment for the voyage will be astronomical (no pun intended), and could not be stored in a few blocks -- or even a few hundred blocks. So our wanderer wanders, collecting wonders and vendors when he returns to find that disaster had struck, the moon that had supported him was now ground away, every scrap of deuterium refined, and baked into boules.

    Now he could go back to square one, find a new moon and mine it himself, but he had a better idea. His trusty robots that had proven to be able to construct themselves and mine the moon away, could send probes to the stars, and begin anew. But there was the problem of the natives, whose fleshy innards would jam the machines. But our wanderer had collected many things from his journies, some of which could -- and had -- destroyed entire ecosystems. Simply by releasing these, the native's fleshy innards that would prove so problematic would themselves calcify into simply more resources for this interplanetary plague. This plague provided infinite power, regularly shipping Deuterium from the stars. And with this infinite power, our wanderer began constructing larger and larger ships to withstand the rigors of space. Eventually he decided that simply attaching massive engines to entire planets was the best way to go about constructing ships that suited his needs. And with this plague, and with these wandering planets, those few civilizations that impossibly survived, named them world-eaters, and wailed in terror as they descended toward world-upon-world, reducing them to hollowed-out husks.



    This is the kind of scaling that I want to see. Going from struggling to survive to automating the process of interplanetary mining. However, for those that don't have the stomach to commit genocide a thousand times over, you could always hand-pick the planets that cannot support life and only send your probes there. (non-industrious losers.) Or use particle accelerators to make antimatter, so that you only need, like, a single Dyson Sphere to get a similar amount of power generated, however, this might take a bit longer to construct if you don't want to destroy everything in sight. Other spacefaring civilizations might employ similar technology and you could be very well at odds with them. Or they might have employed this tech but were -- amazingly -- destroyed. By what, I wonder.
    To balance morality and not make the evil path by far the best way to go; I think that other spacefaring civilizations exist and would be rather annoyed at someone bombarding them with weapons capable of destroying entire planets, and might open their own arsenals.
     
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  2. KuroHinotori

    KuroHinotori Spaceman Spiff

    I'm going to be honest, I only glanced over the suggestion because it was a text-wall. But it sounds like a bunch of excess information. You're basically suggesting helper robots, which as long as it was properly balanced and implemented by the devs, could be cool.
     
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  3. Heartstrings

    Heartstrings Giant Laser Beams

    That *sniff* was amazing. This is a great suggestion, and I support completely.
     
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  4. thefirecrack3r

    thefirecrack3r Subatomic Cosmonaut

    He also suggested mass scale building, destruction of entire planets, dyson spheres (giant solar power generator build over an entire sun). He wants people to be able to create massive intergalactic empires. Robots were just part of it.
     
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  5. gamerseal

    gamerseal Subatomic Cosmonaut

    Plagues are for losers, i prefer enormous monsters that will wipe out planets until the remaining races declare me king mwhahahahahahahahaha.
     
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  6. Jedesis

    Jedesis Ketchup Robot

    I did it! I did it! I scaled the text wall!!! :rofl: No, but anyway its a great idea, where you start out small and end up big.
     
  7. KuroHinotori

    KuroHinotori Spaceman Spiff

    Dyson sphere?
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    All jokes aside, I just wanted to bump what seemed like a really well-thought out post.
     
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  8. FriendlyNewt

    FriendlyNewt Master Chief

    I feel like some of these ideas would fit in with the game, like the automated mining robots, but others are just a bit... out there. Planet-scale building doesn't seem like it will be as necessary unless you REALLY feel the creative desire, and at that point automation isn't really going to help except with the very smallest things.
     
  9. venum4k

    venum4k Subatomic Cosmonaut

    This sounds awesome, and fun.
     

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