Monsters Made for Children

I am also 22 and play Pokemon. I hardly think that makes you or me immature.

I base immaturity on how someone acts, not on their preference of game. I know people in their late 40's who I would consider immature (Even though they don't play Pokemon..*gasp*).

Edit: I should point out not all of that was directed at you, just the first line.

 

"Would it really make sense if your character woke up in the morning, grabbed his gun, and immediately had to fight off visceral Cthulu-raptor-lions? Not every world is going to be all about kicking down your own front door and hacking through baddies like a Riddick movie."

"Do you really want every enemy you fight to be doomy and gloomy? Do you think the story of your character would be as good or as fulfilling if you were fighting more visceral creatures?"

Now the few of you against this idea are being purposely ignorant or something now, for like the fifth time and counting, just because i dont like the idea of cartoony and bright pink art styles, does not mean i apparently want the opposite end, visceral creatures, doomy + gloomy, riddick style, chtulu-raptor-lions. Sorry to the people actually able to understand this point i have made repeatedly, for becoming quite repetitive in my responses, but it seems i apparently have to be, im sure ill repeat this paragraph 10 more times also.

Maybe if i make a second paragraph on the idea of not wanting the exact opposite, but a happy medium for all ages and tastes, that people might finally understand, i highly doubt it though. *insert rest of second paragraph on the same point mentioned 5 times now at least, so people will understand, here*

"A cactus bat, and a tree as weapons are serious?"

No, but nor is it cartoony, its part of the perfect balance/medium im talking about, a concept not many of you liking the current art style seem to understand, maybe thats why they made it this way because some people dont seem to understand any other concept besides ultra opposite doomy gloomy bloody etc etc (this makes a third paragraph).

"It's not human nature to love something you know little of. We actually historically tend to fear those things. (See: Every religious war ever, and everyone who is pessimistic about this game because they haven't seen enough.)"

This thread was taken way out of context with this comment, as in it has nothing whatsoever to do with the forbidden fruit theory and holds no weight whatsoever, i mean really, comparing religious war and being excited about a game you cant yet play? I could bring things alot further out of context just to try make it look like my point is right, but yeah no.....

"Yes we as humans tend to hype things we want, and that's okay. Yes eventually we grow tired of things. That's okay too. It's not a flaw to enjoy the now."

It is however not a flaw, but very unfortunate to let people grow tired of things without at least offering your opinions/ideas/*worries* in the hopes of staving that off for as long as possible, alot longer than may have been so otherwise, for many people.

Instead of just blindly loving whatevers made "cause cant wait to play it cos its gunna be SICK" regardless of whatever happens afterward, Id rather look a little further ahead than just day 1.

 

Well I'll be damned. This thread is going to get CLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSEEEEEEEEED.

 

Oh, this is an idea/suggestion? You know we have a sub-forum for that right?

Here I was under the impression you were just stating your opinion and asking a question.

 

That thing is bloody creepy, can you imagine going to bed and waking up to find that thing just standing there. Looking at you.

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As for the topic at hand. I really don't see how anyone can say the monsters are aimed at children, I mean yeah some of them might be brightly colored, but then again so is a lot of the random colors for biomes. Purple, pink, blue grass and dirt. The creatures fit with their own planets, just cause we have mostly earthy colored animals doesn't mean every creature no matter what planet has to be brown or grey.

Do you think the monsters really choose their colors? "Oh dear I seem to have came out really pink, well, I might as well just go extinct now cause I'm too childish looking." =P I mean they'd fit in well on a pink or red planet.

Either way, I don't see the issue with cartoony. And WTF? Terraria didn't have brightly colored things? It had bloody pixies and unicorns. It has a freaking RAINBOW GUN, for craps sake.

 

I give up on this guy.

I can't tell if you're over thinking it, or just not smart enough to quite grasp exactly what it is you're trying to convey.

The religious war thing was just an example of what people do when they don't know enough about something. They get upset. Hence what you seem to be doing. We've barely scratched the surface of the games content and you seem intent on berating it's monster selection and art style. Wait till you get the game. So yes, it was on topic.

It is your opinion that the game needs to be less silly, it's mine that it's fine. I've stated previously it's okay to have different opinions.

Now would you quite making the assumption that I'm just some blind follower of a thing? I saw this, I came to my own conclusion on the game, as you did, and I like it, which you seem to not.

I take issue with you berating the community.
Not your opinion.

(As another side note: Mods.)

Edit:

Confetti cannon too.

 

Slimes comprised 50% of the enemies in Terraria, or at least that's what it seemed like. There was at least one, if not multiple, kinds in every biome. Let's see, off the top of my head, there were green, blue, purple, yellow, red, dark, dungeon, mother, illuminated, corrupt, black, King, fire, ice, and pink (Pinky) slimes. Oh yeah, and the new Crimslime too. There was a slime in every primary and secondary color! And I'm still forgetting some! Of course, this is almost certainly because making a new slime monster consisted of taking the same texture, recoloring it, and re-statting it appropriate to whatever biome it was going to be in.

And this is just a mindless hunk of goo that jumped at you to do damage. Pretty much the simplest possible sidescroller enemy you could get. That was silly. And the Hallow was utterly silly, at least traversing the surface (underground was another story, friggin' Chaos Elementals!). Unicorns, pixies, floating snails (that shoot lasers), and light side mummies (wut?).

I don't think a purple gorilla, or even a smiling poop monster, is any worse than two dozen varieties of slime. Or snails with frickin' laser beams.

 

I completely hate the monster generation, unless it ends up being way better than depicted it's going to sour the game a decent bit for me since combat is a big part of the game and I'll be seeing lots of the derpy things. But, to be fair, I obviously haven't seen the whole game so I can't really make an educated decision on this. But my speculations and concerns will still be here no matter what. Regardless, I don't like the majority of the uninteresting and bland enemies popping out of the generator.

 

Yup the kids love devil man.

 

Words need mouths. And this thread wants monsters.

Yes it's pink. Say what.

 

I kinda agree with OP tho, really. He's not wrong, in my opinion, he might've said some things that made people angry and stuff, but hey, who has never been an asshole without intending to at some point in their lives?

Thing is, after looking at this: http://community.playstarbound.com/index.php?threads/a-generated-monster-every-friday.8063/
I actually find most of these okay, but I see where OP is coming from, they do look sort of pokemon-ish, but that's the art style the devs chose and I'm okay with it. I hope at higher tiers though that they look more fierce, which makes sense when you think about leveling. It should be easy to pinpoint what's a weak mob and what are the strong ones (Not always, to add some surprises of course)

And sure, it does sound like we're trying to be edgy, dark, badass...whatever, and you know what, yeah... I am and I admit it. But not for the sake of being edgy and showing it off, demonstrating how cool and mature I am, but because let's face it, who looks cooler: Batman or Superman? Some people like "dark", there's nothing wrong about that, just as there is nothing wrong about enjoying bright pink etc. People are different and that shouldn't be a problem.

Worst case scenario, if this is what we get from tier 1 to 11, those who aren't happy, which I'm guessing is the minority can make mods. I know I am going to and I'm completely okay with that.

Hate it when threads turns into little fights like these...oh well, such is life.

 

Funnily enough, it seems that while most people who i know in the forums and behave like adults like the cartoonish graphics, all kids want something more ´´realistic``.
I guess thats why COD is so popular?

Seriously, ´´lets see if your still happy with fighting 10yo styled monsters``. must be one of the most retarded phrases i have ever heard in the forums, are you reading what you write? I may sound offensive, but i am getting tired.

Look, THIS GAME ISNT MADE FOR YOU, ITS MADE FOR EVERYONE. IF YOU WANT TO PROVE ANYTHING, GO MAKE A POLL, AND WHEN OVER 50% OF THE PEOPLE VOTES THAT THEY DONT LIKE THE GRAPHICS, MAYBE THEY WILL BE CHANGED, UNTIL THEN HOPE FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE A TEXTURE PACK. *Sorry for caps*

Im probably gonna hate myself for writing this when i am totally awoken, but thats what i think about this whole thread in general.

 

What, 13.5? 14, maybe? Your use of the word "lol" leads me to believe that if you are older than 13, it's not by much.

Nonetheless, who cares what color the 5 or 10 monsters you have seen so far are? With the generator, there are millions of possibilities, so you don't exactly have a decent amount to judge from.

Personally, I believe that discussions like this shouldn't exist until the game is at least out in beta, that way you can comment on what you yourself have seen and not what few images have been leaked. For all you know, there's a conspiracy in the Chucklefish team to only release pictures of pink monsters.

Just wait a little longer, and see for yourself. Then comment on how the game that these people work their asses off to make good for all of us isn't good enough.

 

If anything was worthy of a lock, it would be this topic. It's just devolving into a bunch of people coming in to copycat the OP in insulting people based on their age-based preconceptions. The Starbound community is better than this, I know it is. Don't prove me wrong.

 

Im glad i found its not just me that feels this way, but it is fair enough there are also others that are completely fine with it, in my opinion, for now, until they get to actually play it and get used to the current art style/the novelty wears off.

But, what is even more fair, is finding that happy medium i was talking about, not keeping it bright coloured pokemon clearly very young target audience based only, nor dark mature gloomy fierce only.

Also, some people have said they just want some laughs from the game, cool, you just want a few cheap laughs, then go watch comedy channel or something else just as casual to suit your casual interests, instead frinding it from something that affects everyone else also.


At the end of the day, after some good constructive feedback from this thread, im juust going to hope that its a case of low tier monsters, and that they do become more monster looking as the game goes on to some degree, that would even be pretty cool/make sense, heres to hoping this is the case.

 

Or they could just, you know, not get tired of it.
I mean, is it really that far-fetched that some of us actually don't hate the art style? I mean, I quite like it, and I don't see myself ever going "Wow I've played this game so much that now this game's art direction looks like shit"

I hate it when people say this. Look, you aren't the one making the game. How is it "Fair" to push what you want on the Devs when it's not your game?

 

"I have a dream, that monsters will one day be judged not by the colour of their skin, but by the content of their character"
I don't think the colour of the monster matters. If it can rip your face off, it's a monster. Besides, the Earth was destroyed by a pink monster.
Why are people so scared of childishness?

 

This thread is funny, but I will say this: Opinions are not always right, they're not always wrong either, but at no point in time is anyone allowed to think that their opinion is higher than anyone else's.

 

FrankBiscuit - Um, how exactly is it not fair to find an even balance, a happy medium, instead of sticking with one extreme because hey you dont seem to mind it. You accuse me of wanting the art style my way, yet you seem to like the current art style and call finding a medium or anything else unfair, you do the same thing you accuse me of, all in the same post, lol.....

At least im calling for a medium, not one or the other extreme, then calling a medium option unfair.

Also who said im necessarily completely pushing exactly what i want? as ive said, terms like happy medium and a balance, suggest a fair compromise for all tastes, a negotiation, not just the one extreme end, of completely childish (for lack of a better term, not to cause offense) nor exactly what i would perfectly like.

At least im trying to make a decent compromise and not, not listen to anything anyone else has to suggest or would like, just because im happy with the current art style, and im the bad one here?

 

This game isn't meant to be gruesome and dark.

I still hope it has some planets with those two qualities. I think the prison planets will have some nice things.