Just your friendly neighborhood Glitch here!

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself!' started by Tanya Sapien, Dec 13, 2013.

  1. Tanya Sapien

    Tanya Sapien Void-Bound Voyager

    I've only been playing a little while since launch, and I'm already loving the game. The frequent updates and character wipes are a *tad* annoying, but it just means you guys are busting your humps working on new content and ironing out the bugs, so keep it up!

    I'm really enjoying the Glitch race, especially since my 'niche' in highschool was to be called a glitch; since I was some mutant hybrid of nerd and cool kid. And my roleplaying persona is as an AI program, so this perfectly incorporates both aspects.

    I've noticed some annoying bugs and interesting exploits involving gravel and sand, but they're menial against the game as a whole. I can't wait to see how Wire works and to play with that some. I look forward to all the awesome stuff you guys are cooking up.


    ~GLITCHES OF THE WORLDS UNITE!~
     
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  2. DawnSeeker

    DawnSeeker Orbital Explorer

    I love the concept of Florans personally, The glitch just looks like it has no neck but I really do love their back story.
     
  3. rekon

    rekon Master Chief

    I like the Glitch race too because I honestly believe humans will someday create a species like the Glitch. We will create artificial beings which will replace us in the event of inevitable human extinction. Humans are built to require food, the right kind of food. A robot can learn to use many forms of fuel, if built to. They can repair themselves without the possibility of dying from bleeding. Humans are very complex organisms, but we have difficulties learning, remembering, and applying knowledge quickly. We will someday program robots to do that without them having difficulty. Why should we humans be so anthropocentric of our existence? Let's evolve someday by using our knowledge.
     
  4. DawnSeeker

    DawnSeeker Orbital Explorer

    The only thing that gets me about this is that maybe they will have no feelings or soul or anything that humans can feel.. so maybe there is no point of the robots living if they can't feel love or love somebody or feel the emotions we can or have a mind of their own instead of just doing what they are programmed to do. You get what I mean?
     
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  5. rekon

    rekon Master Chief

    I do get what you mean and I have thought about this myself. However, humans are programmed to feel emotions naturally through evolution. There are people who are sociopaths who cannot feel the emotions that us correctly operating humans can feel. Which one can simply say that a human is a biological robot with very complex programming. My point is, what is the point of anything existing? The stars will all die someday and humans will become non-existent in the darkened universe. Furthermore, even robots taking our places is pointless because the universe will end and the information they've gathered will collapse into a black-hole or crush with agglomeration. It makes me wonder how humans are so capable of being interested and happy throughout life while accepting our inevitable end. Robots would simply last longer and be more capable of living through an ending universe, if they found out how.
     
  6. DawnSeeker

    DawnSeeker Orbital Explorer

    hmm, I don't think the universe can just end.. We still don't know what lies past our own solar system.. I would love to go find out myself but lol I can't I'll just stop breathing with no air up there..

    & if sociopaths can't feel emotions and just kill people than robots will probably do the same.. Just like the Daleks in Doctor Who.

    I accept my death too but I am not living happy and interested throughout my life.. I am actually the opposite, I haven't got a career plan or and great qualifications , I haven't got many friends in real life & no one to take me clubbing or anything .. I basically just sit on my computer and play video games (Which don't interest me as much as they did when I was a kid) and waste my time on these forums.. I'll probably do this for another 80 years until I die and I accept my death, I just hope it will be painless.

    & I suppose I accept it because I am interested to find out what happens when I die.
     
  7. rekon

    rekon Master Chief

    We do know many things about what is past our solar system. Nebula's, pulsars, novas, black holes, dark(unknown) matter, dark(unknown) energy, matter, cosmic microwave background, and have a map of everything we have observed throughout space.

    It's interesting to me that you say how you feel about life and your interests, because a human should not feel this way. Yet, it is how many of us feel. A lot of these feeling derive from the lack of survival work there is for us to do because most of it is done for us so we learn to do "busy work." The other factor is that our diets within developed countries are very unhealthy and what we eat is what we are made of. So if one eats unhealthy, most of us do and we don't know it because our food pyramid is upside down, he or she will be depressed.

    Good luck with your life and I hope you turn around your perspective.
     
  8. DawnSeeker

    DawnSeeker Orbital Explorer

    Yeah most of the food you find in the grocery store is fake and has GMO's and is very unhealthy for us.. So that could explain why the number of people feeling the way I may feel has increased. This world doesn't care about itself, All it cares about is this paper money that can buy them things that's all.. they mix half meat with half glue stuff just so they can sell more meat and make more money , they change plant DNA structures so they can grow all the time and produce their own poison to kill insects.. which makes us sick.

    I don't know.. Like I have happy times I do but when I think about what the world has become It can eat me up.. but I just say to myself to live every day as it comes and make the most of it :)
     
  9. Tanya Sapien

    Tanya Sapien Void-Bound Voyager

    The daleks are cybernetic, your argument is invalid. More specifically, they're genetically engineered lifeforms existing inside mechanical shells. They were engineered by a single man, a man craving what his warped mind viewed as perfection. an integral part of that perfection was breeding out every emotion except for anger and antipathy.

    As far as emotion Vs logic goes, that's assuming that a race of sentient machines would exist purely on a logic based system. Our current forms of computer engineering use digital data, in other words it's absolute, a one or a zero. Even with the smallest wiring possible, single molecule wide fibers, compressing a computer capable of full sentience into a skull sized object would be problematic at best. Our brains and our minds exist the way they do because of their analogue nature. A single nerve fiber can convey multiple bits of data with a single pulse. In order to compress a sentient computer into the same space, it would have to do the same. This analogue nature of course has some inaccuracy and decay to it, which is where emotions come from (instinct and hormonal influences notwithstanding) This means that a machine capable of sentience in a hull of that size would have to either have a form of data transfer that emulates this organic behavior, or be a quantum computer, as quantum bits are capable of being both a one and a zero simultaneously, and thusly process more data with less material.

    If you're going with the quantum computing angle, a completely viable approach to this would be Blue Brain. Blue Brain is an experimental project that's in actual development today as we speak. The function of Project Blue Brain is simple; create a computer-generated mass of nerve tissue, then emulate the functions of it. An AI program could be built based on the principles of Blue Brain as an operating system. To wit; Conventional computing could be used to represent all of the sections of the brain except for the abdula oblongata and prefrontal cortex. Those two sections of the brain govern emotion and personality. Blue Brain emulations could simulate these two sections and be integrated into the BIOS and firmware itself to prevent a software bypass of their functions. In this way, the machines would benefit from the enhanced functionality of a computer's mind, while still retaining what would amount to conscience and empathy.


    What can I say, I'm a have my cake and eat it too kind of girl.
     
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  10. DawnSeeker

    DawnSeeker Orbital Explorer

    You sure thought about this deeply, I like your avatar btw. And I think I will research this blue brain now it interest me so much! ^^

    Oh the things I could do if I got my hands on this >:D *Evil laguhter* lol that was a joke you know how they say "If it's in the wrong hands,could be destruction"

    But do tell me more about this blue brain while I'm googling it and seeing if there are books on it :)
     
  11. Tanya Sapien

    Tanya Sapien Void-Bound Voyager

    just correcting an earlier typo I made, I meant to type "Medula Oblongata" not "Abdula Oblongata" but anyways.

    last I knew, they were only able to simulate a 2mm x 2mm x 2mm cube of nervous tissue, but that was five years ago, so I've got no idea how far the project's come by now. As far as my avatar goes, thanks, though I can't take anywhere near full credit. It's just a photoshop I made of an image by Tracii Vermeesch. here's the full thing: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3221076/catgirl 03.jpg
     
  12. rekon

    rekon Master Chief

    I have a feeling you are going, or have gone, to school for neuroscience. Or at least educate yourself very well in the subject. But anyhoo, I like this post. Thanks for the interesting read and good job making me feel un-educated about the point I was trying to make lol.
     
  13. Tanya Sapien

    Tanya Sapien Void-Bound Voyager

    Lets just say I earned the title of "mad scientist" it wasn't one I just took because I felt like it.
     
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  14. rekon

    rekon Master Chief

    Tell me, do you believe some humans are capable of receiving and interpreting the small brainwaves that human minds transmit?
     
  15. Kentimentu

    Kentimentu Void-Bound Voyager

    *claps*
     
  16. Percival

    Percival Phantasmal Quasar

    O.O Just stopped in to say, "Hi, and that I like the Glitch too because of their aesthetic and their ship is awesome." and seem to have stumbled into a complex conversation about what makes sentience, and the formation of emotions through biological programming. I may be a little out of my depth, but hello and welcome, anyway.
     
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  17. JrMud

    JrMud Void-Bound Voyager

    Butts.
     
  18. DawnSeeker

    DawnSeeker Orbital Explorer

    I think you can get custom titles on this website :) So you might be a mad scientist here as well ^^

    And I researched it a bit before I went to sleep (australia) and they actually made the one you were talking about and it works but they are making another one and apparently it's going to be the complete one. :O
    Than we shall have robots walking around? :3
     
  19. Tanya Sapien

    Tanya Sapien Void-Bound Voyager

    this is the single most intelligent comment in this thread so far.
     
  20. Tanya Sapien

    Tanya Sapien Void-Bound Voyager

    Due to the nature of what my response to that comment would be, I cannot voice my opinion on the matter. I make it a point not to put forward my spiritual views in academic environments.
     
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