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Issue: base building + travel cost

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by Eriktion, Dec 11, 2013.

  1. Eriktion

    Eriktion Orbital Explorer

    right now its not really worth it to build a base (at least not with much effort)

    when i build a base i cant come back to it cause of the travel costs
    (well sure i can but i have to gather the 100 coal again and again)

    im not saying its hard to get 100 coal but its kind of annoying
    and its one of the reasons many people make their ship their house... instead of building something beautiful

    noone will revisit their home-base if you have to pay for each visit

    so my suggestion is:

    Make visiting planets you allready have been free or much cheaper
    you could even increase the initial travel cost for the first trip to a planet

    thoughts?
     
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  2. FeederChan

    FeederChan Space Spelunker

    Nope it will make things too easy for the combat junkies who want everyone to play hard mode never mind the ones who want to build or explore. Everything must be a chore!
     
  3. Eriktion

    Eriktion Orbital Explorer

    i dont want to make this game easy.... but less annoying
    i even said they could increase initial travel costs
     
  4. Scynix

    Scynix Big Damn Hero

    How far are you going with 200 fuel that you can't get back?
    It doesn't cost me anywhere near 50 fuel (25 coal) to move back and forth (2 way trip < 50 fuel) between local system planets.
     
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  5. Geomexis

    Geomexis Big Damn Hero

    Well this doesn't solve any single-player issues, but in multiplayer you can essentially have a free pass to any single planet (Or more if your party has 3 or more people) by just having someone park their ship over a planet you want to keep as a base and just teleporting to that person's ship and beaming down while using the other person's ship to do the actual traveling.
     
  6. Dust

    Dust Giant Laser Beams

    Nice attempt at sarcasm. Keep trying and you'll get the hang of it.

    On Topic: To get around high travel costs, when you first go exploring, stay within your starting system if possible, failing that, travel to a system that has many worlds so that you have plenty of cheap places to travel to to search for more fuel. Keep doing this a few times and you should be able to comfortably explore any planet and return to one you set as home, and still have fuel to spare.
     
  7. Slywyn

    Slywyn Existential Complex

    Yeah I just built my base inside of my ship this time because I don't have enough coal to move everything. I've actually had to start putting things on little platforms in the air because I've run out of space on the ground for them.
     
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  8. Grey Owl

    Grey Owl Subatomic Cosmonaut

    Maybe the devs could implement a craftable stargate that you can leave at your base to use as a teleport point. It wouldn't be hard to build and the cost to use it would be half the amount you would use for your ship.
     
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  9. Eriktion

    Eriktion Orbital Explorer

    oh my bad didnt notice that it can be cheaper than 200
    but it will still be annoying at some point later in the game
     
  10. Scynix

    Scynix Big Damn Hero

    Later in the game you get better fuels. Coal is not your only source of fuel, just your starting source of fuel.
     
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  11. Cayote

    Cayote Aquatic Astronaut

    I have found myself making my home base in my ship, having everything there is just convenient, yet I've heared about base building mechanics that would be great to use, and I think in the final release there will be lots of advantages for having your base on a planet instead of taking everything with you like a gipsy.
     
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  12. Darx

    Darx Space Hobo

    The idea of a device that lets you return to your homebase for free is spooking around somewhere on the forums. That seems like a decent idea to me.
     
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  13. Sadeyx

    Sadeyx Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Yea, I kind of agree... its an utter waste of time to build anything, anywhere right now.

    Gota wait for the planet to planet teleporters.
     
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  14. Eriktion

    Eriktion Orbital Explorer

    id like that idea
    would even pay like 1000 fuel and a lot of ore (or whatever a stargate is made of) if i can get back for free then
     
  15. Cayote

    Cayote Aquatic Astronaut

    I don't think thats a good thing to add, as travel costs should be there, I do think you should be able to get travel materials in more than one way. I can think of a scenario where all the coal in on your planet is gone and you can't jump to any more planets. although the chance of this happening could be near to none, I can still see it happen.
     
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  16. Sadeyx

    Sadeyx Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    tiy said in a live stream right before the release that they plan on having teleporters that alow you to teleport to other places on a planet and other planets. So its not really a new idea
     
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  17. Cayote

    Cayote Aquatic Astronaut

    This would be a way better alternative, although they should be made expensive.
     
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  18. Slywyn

    Slywyn Existential Complex

    There's fuel stuff on asteroids right?

    1) Are asteroids moons? because I have yet to see an Asteroid.

    2) I need to get more leather(Hurngh) for a snow suit to get more fuel.
     
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  19. Sadeyx

    Sadeyx Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    oh yea, I agree! :)

    like... im going all geek mode here but maybe we could build stargates and have puddle jumpers lol :D :D
     
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  20. Cayote

    Cayote Aquatic Astronaut

    There is a lot of uranium and such on asteroids, to get there you can easily use either "Blink" or "Bubble Boost" To fly way up into the air above the athmosphere, I'm not sure if it's as easy in this patch as it was in the previous one as Energy seems to regenerate a lot slower, another alternative would be to make a staircase up there but that would cost a ton of materials. you also need a warm suit or a lot of camp fires to keep you warm up there.
     

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