Is this game politically neutral?

Believe it or not, some people in our world still like to think. Even video game players.
I know that most of you kids are used to instant gratification, but some like to think outside the box. It's unconfortable at times, but very rewarding. You should try it.

 

Only until people start taking it a little too seriously as they have in the past with other games. And the actual implementation of it all tends to make or break it for me as well. For instance, character sexual preferences being made known in Borderlands 2 for absolutely no truly legitimate reason other than to just put it out there. Like I care about such a thing? I don't recall ever wondering what Master Chief's orientation was or even if Samus Aran was a man or a woman because I simply didn't care. It does nothing to improve the quality of the game to me and this includes Borderlands 2. They could have left all that extra information out and the game would still be as good as it is to me.

 

Well, I'm a Russian playing a commie-ape scientist wearing an ushanka. If you meet me ingame, I shall cast my favourite marxist theories upon you. You can hereby concider every server I am playing on, tinted red.
edit: No political statement included unless you're looking for one.

 

lol

 

You sir are a pain in the rump you made my lazy butt login just to like your post now why would you do something like that to me?

My opinion?

Everybody is different it is up to the individual to determine what is good/bad to him/her perhaps to some one thing is right and to others that thing is wrong.

If you were a practicing christian you would not want to play a game where Jesus is alluded to as evil, if you were a Muslim you would not wish to play a game where Muhammad is poorly portrayed. It is simply natural to turn from those things that go against are belief, that is not to say that beliefs shouldn't be questioned it would not be believing if there isn't the opportunity for doubt.

The OP has said nothing wrong only asked a question, now if the post was filled with racist remarks and derogatory terms that would be a different matter altogether.

The game is not yet finished but I can say that the game will almost certainly carry some form of political opinion from the developers it may be subconsciously done but it will be there.

tl;dr: The OP has asked a question he did not attack anyone so either answer the question respectfully or ignore it the choice is yours.

 

Well he did mention miscegenation in a way that connotes he thinks it is unfavorable.

You know. Just saying.

 

True, but he never insulted anyone or specifically said what he thinks is wrong. He simply provided an example, which he probably found necessary, because most people have come to accept miscegenation and would not even give it a second thought.

He did not make any derogatory remarks or act outside his rights, so he's completely entitled to his own opinion.

 

Just because you're entitled to an opinion, doesn't mean other people can't criticize that opinion.

 

Look up the definition of "miscegenation".

 

@Slimy Yes, but there's a difference between asking him why he believes such things and having a healthy discussion about your own stance on it than just assuming something negative about him. It also doesn't help when almost every post in this thread is a pointless critique that someone else in the thread already said. I'm sure he got the message the first time someone called him out because his views aren't the norm in modern society.

 

In addition to Slimy's comment, I'd like to point out that I never flamed him, and the closest I came was being like, yeah, people are not going to be happy with this for good reason.

That said, connoting that interracial relationships are unfavorable is going to be incredibly offensive to anyone who is in one (and most people who aren't) and is super racist. Just because you're not frothing at the mouth and beating a podium that doesn't mean your remarks aren't incredibly, incredibly racist. I mean you don't get much more 'racist remark-y' than suggesting there's something morally wrong about interracial relationships.

And I just felt like pointing that out for hilarity in lieu of Tomwa's comment about how it would be different if he made racist remarks.

Because he did.

 

Man, for a minute there I thought this thread was an April Fools joke, but we just finished Christmas! So.... that means this topic is for real? I need to find myself some coal so I can hop to another planet, pronto.

 

Creating this thread was his first and only post, he still hasn't made any replies, and the thread dragged along for three pages while more legitimate threads get much less attention.

I'm going to call

 

This topic really seems like he made it to seem intelligent by showing
us how many fancy words he knows...

Depending on who you are you will be able to find different answers to the
stated questions.. Some people believe its Capitalistic others do not..

In the end the game was not made to be politically correct, incorrect or
neutral.. It was made to give players the world over something fun to do..

Not to push their political agenda..

Excuse any grammatical mistakes, 20 hour day and I'm writing this from
under my duvey before I head to bed. I simply wanted to give my opinion
though ultimately it does not matter to anyone.

 

What I find particularly distressing about this post is, I somehow imagine that the OP is asking not for his/her own benefit, but somehow because he doesn't want someone more impressionable - ie, their child - partaking in the taint of miscegenation (I cringe just typing out that word).

In other words, my imagination leads me to believe that he is teaching a child these life lessons, and thus, bringing another monster into this world.

Edit: Assuming, of course, this is not a big old troll, as the post above me suggests. But I've come to just assume that no one is a troll unless otherwise stated, since otherwise the internet is way too confusing a place.

 

I never said you flamed him, I also never said his question would not make others angry, but it is up to those angry people to behave with civility. It doesn't matter if he is racist or not as long as he does not insult others or take away their rights because of it. Just because what he believes is morally questionable to you does not make it illegal. Morality is not objective, in his view of morality it may be bad for two people of different races to have a relationship, he's completely entitled to his own personal beliefs. He never claimed they shouldn't, that's the difference.

Is it racist? obviously. Is that a problem you can do anything about? No, not unless you have a civil discussion with him (and he is not here, so clearly that won't happen). He has not tried to take someone else's rights, and his rights allow him to have whatever opinion he wants.

And no, he isn't "frothing at the mouth" he's being as respectful as one can be with this type of opinion, so why treat him rudely? You have every right to disagree with him, everyone does, but please keep in mind that you're required to be respectful too.

 

I dunno, I've always thought that respect was earned. Considering that he apparently feels that I, a product of miscegenation, shouldn't exist, I don't think I owe him any respect at all. However, I wouldn't resort to a flaming response because I hate stooping to such lows. Therefore, I will remain civilly appalled.

 

Even if he's not the one we're talking to, and regardless of the level of civility--which has honestly been much much higher in this thread than I'd have expected after years on the internet--it's still worth while to make it known that his views are not acceptable. Because even if you don't get through to him, you keep his ideas from spreading. His ideas that are, regardless of how much you say he has a right to them, directly harmful to other people. As long as he has a voice he has political capital and power, and the worry is not whether or not we can change his mind, but whether or not his views are allowed to be espoused unchallenged.

For him to suggest that interracial relationships are negative and have no one point out that it is a vile thought leaves other people believing that it is an acceptable thought (and the more people that speak out the more unacceptable it seems). Other people who may or may not have fully made up their mind on the issue at hand, whether because they are younger or merely because they've never had to think about it. It helps people who have no opinion to form the less damaging one, and it shows people who have the harmful opinion that they won't be allowed to say hateful things in an echo chamber.

This is also why, despite SeaJay making a pretty good point (twice now, I think), I prefer not to treat these people as trolls to be dismissed, but rather as people who actually hold these opnions, and to say that those opinions are wrong, when they, or someone else, defends that position, to explain why whatever arguments they have for it are wrong.

 

Wish I could kiss you. An eloquent break down of why the "ignore the trolls" and "they're entitled to their own opinion" arguments are not always valid.

 

True. I also think respect was the wrong word for me to use. You don't have to respect him or his opinion, but moreso his right to say it. I suppose you also don't have to be polite, but it's preferable imo. I understand the importance of letting our own opinions be known so that it does not become a widely accepted opinion, but I feel like we should do that through discussion with someone who upholds this viewpoint, rather than everyone agreeing that it's a terrible opinion (Of course, I find OP's opinions appalling, but that doesn't mean I feel like jumping on the bandwagon to say something along the lines of "lol it's 2013")

The problem with your point is that there are people pointing out the idea that his opinion is vitriolic, a lot of people in fact. By no means should we just ignore his opinion and accept it, but there's no reason for everyone to JUST focus on how foolish they think his opinion is.

With that being said, perhaps we should let this thread die? If OP responds then there's a reason to keep discussing it, but if he doesn't then it's just going to be 2-3 people giving rebuttals while others chime in on how his views are wrong, etc.