If you have ever respawned i strongly ask you not to think about this.

That you are only a Clone reconstruction of your original body, which died the first time you respawned and all actions in the future will not be done by the person you made rather a clone of him/her . Do NOT think about this!

 

What's wrong with that?

 

Change respawn to teleport and you will have a classic philosophical discussion on your hands.

 

The Human respawn animation is literally a cloning machine. Same thing with the Apex. I'm pretty sure this isn't a new concept here. I mean if we really want to get deep into this, can we even be sure it is even a new being? Of flesh maybe, but with the advanced technology of this game, maybe the brain state is saved upon death, and is transferred to the clone once ready.

 

I was really just making a joke based off off what is said sometimes when you respawn in borderlands 2.

 

Kind of depressing that you're a different person every time.

I hope makes a custom animation for Novakids soon, something like a brand shimmering back to life or something of the sort?

 

The dark secret of Starbound

 

"You" are not the atoms in your body but the pattern of the atoms.

 

It's not really a disconcerting thought. You are not the same person you were when you started this thread. I am not the same person I was when I started writing this reply. Countless things have changed within me since I started typing. Skin cells have died and been shed, blood cells have died and been broken down and reabsorbed, chemical reactions are constantly occurring in every organ, electrical activity within the brain is constantly fluctuating. And that is just on the obvious biological/physical stuff. That doesn't even get into thoughts and emotions, which while having a biological/physical foundation are generally considered to be even more mutable.

You are not the same person you were a second ago. So why should it matter if the person who steps out of a cloning tube is not the same person that just experienced a horrible and painful death on some random planet in the vastness of space?

 

^^ If the clone is identical and have your memories implanted then is he you or someone else? When you teleport you are disassembled on a molucular level (or perhaps even atom level) and then reassembled, is the person appearing at the end the same person as the one the disepeared? Or is it a newly born creature and the old died?

What are "you"?

And in the end, does it realy matter?

These ethnic & philosophical dilemmas about cloning and teleportation is nothing new, they have been around since cloning and teleportation was first mentioned in fiction/theory. The core issue is that theres no clear definition on what "you/we" are.

 

As many times as I've had to re-spawn, I'm surprised I don't have genetic deterioration.

Edit: I think I was asleep when I wrote this. Should've said cellular degeneration.

 

...wait a minute!!
Cloning technology wouldn't be the economical necessity of space if all it did was provide a person that was not "you". The whole point of the cloning machine is to provide survival, fat lot of good it does if it is called into question by loved ones and consumers.

In other words, however the respawn tech works, it would have to go through some RIGOROUS testing in order for it to be approved for general use...or be illegal, whichever. We need lore on this, maybe a few cults and luddites raging against the machine.

 

That's what I figured. Every time anything dies that is a player, NPC or humanoidish enemy, those little blueish globes of light fly up, as if the information is being sent back up to your ship for you to be reconstructed. So technically it would still be a CLONE of your body, but you'd still be you mentally.

Just my thought, anyway. Here, have a kitty.

 

That seems like the idea, given that npcs and pcs do not "die the same way as mobs. Actual death would leave a corpse.

So possibly a humanoid character receiving critical damage in starbound would get him(or as much of him as possible) retrived by the cloning machine for body reconstruction. Death usually isn't instantaneous, so it can be possible to retrieve a body in time to save the "person". A new body in use would have less chance of long running physical health problems resulting from combat.

 

Thank you!! I started trying to find this as soon as I opened the thread. It's a good read, recommended for any fans of this thread.

 

you know... that question reminds me of "Sync" by CorridorDigital, where the main character is able to transfer his consciousness to bio-mechanical bodies at will... "Body Swapping" basically... which... actually makes some sense if you apply to this question, so what if when you died, instead of being a clone of your former self your Consciousness was actually being transferred to a new Bio-mechanical Body that was Synthesized from Dispersing Biometric particles of your de-constructed body on event of your Death, the Pixels you lose being a secondary source for the process and used in the construction of your new body.

 

reflective: as a glitch, is the simple act of transferring my consiousness, and with it my "self" enough to invalidate my uniqueness as a person?

confident: of course not, that would be silly. stupid organic life and it's lack of backups.

 

The only question I have is this. How, in this instance, would the new you know where the old you died and dropped his crap?

 

In a lot of games including EVE online and others, the way to make sure you don't "die" is that there is cloning "insurance" where you first die, but in the moment of death you consciousness is transferred into a clone, and whenever you die thenceforth, the process repeats. only you can pay more or less for better clones. better clones hold all your memories and skills (the important thing) while cheaper clones contain only your memory but not as many of the skills you've trained on and worked for. In starbound I'm thinking its like having a high tier clone, upon death your characters consciousness is transferred into a newly made clone. and the loss of pixels is like the pay toll or something. Just ma thoughts.

 

Maybe the clone is made of pixels... PIXELS ARE PEOPLE!