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Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by Archer, Jan 27, 2014.

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  1. Archer

    Archer Spaceman Spiff

    I apologize beforehand for being slightly annoyed.

    Why do servers always come on the second place, when more than half of your community thrives on multiplayer? Do you honestly think anybody would play your new patch for more than one week if there wouldn't be any servers to play on? The game either thrives on multiplayer, or thrives on rapid updates, the key in the end is to prevent people from getting bored... Right?

    You folks banned the only functional wrapper made for servers, after the whole shitstorm with Zidonuke and Crashdoom, and didn't bother to put in at least the same functionalities as that wrapper provided, KEY features, such as spawn protection, permission system fully fledged with kicking, banning, muting, teleport commands, ship protection, starteritems, chat formatting, playerlist, and much more. Those are things that are absolutely WORTH IT to put effort into, it would GREATLY improve the quality of the multiplayer gameplay for everybody, and that everybody that I'm talking about is roughly 50% of your community. Hell there isn't even a playerlist built in....

    Now, with the latest update, another horrible issue has been plaguing servers, making them crash every 10 minutes because old clients connect to them, AN EXPLOIT!!, but yet it gets ignored, after all these threads and replies from people with the same issue, there's apparently NO fix in the new hotfix. And now keep in mind, this will fix itself maybe over time when everybody has updated, but this vulnerability can still be used to hurt servers!

    I know this will get fixed soon-ish at some point, but it frustrates me how the multiplayer community violently gets beat up somehow with every update for basically nothing, especially after how you banned the only very functional wrapper straight out of this community (and none of the available tools even slightly live up to it).

    I appreciate all efforts done by the dev team to create this fantastic game a lot, but please try to stop negatively impacting the multiplayer community, being aware of it or not, it's going to hurt the game too eventually.
     
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  2. krylo

    krylo Hard-To-Destroy Reptile

    What is this silliness?

    Anyway, I think you may be slightly overstating the amount of the player base that prefer multiplayer to single, and am pretty sure that improvements to the core game are also improvements to multiplayer. Which is to say, it improves the game for 100% of the playerbase, not just the rather liberal interpretation of 'over half'.
     
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  3. o0AzzA0o

    o0AzzA0o Space Hobo

    I'm just making sure that no one dis respects archer because I wouldn't be able to tolerate it. :) its not silliness its a matter of principle
     
  4. Archer

    Archer Spaceman Spiff

    Surely improvements to the core game are welcome and I am thankful for that, but the multiplayer community is far larger than you might realize. There are really very few players that prefer to play this game alone, its whole setting is ideal for multiplayer, look at roleplaying for example... Who would roleplay on his own? And many DO enjoy roleplaying, trust me, just look around on these forums.
     
  5. o0AzzA0o

    o0AzzA0o Space Hobo

    HAHAHA right lets get this strait the single player benefits have benefited the whole community ? = false multiplayer servers are offline.... none of the wrappers work..... the multuplayer servers are now crashing frequently due to network issues.

    Singleplayer? perhaps you forget that everyone had to pay with cha wipe for sake of a few new attacks ? I dont see any benefit to eather side multiplayer or single and i can tell you now for sure that multiplayer is a whole lot worse.

    The new save system caused major lag issues for single player on certain hardware ..... this wasnt true before the update.

    I understand that this is not released game yet but please get your facts right :)
     
  6. o0AzzA0o

    o0AzzA0o Space Hobo

    that was an accident i was trying to boot off some insultive player lool to much rum and i accidently nuke sb LOOOL
     
  7. Serenity

    Serenity The Waste of Time

    Not saying it's beta..but it's beta. I agree all those features would be great that is why by full release they will be in game. They still have to balance the game alot.
     
  8. Archer

    Archer Spaceman Spiff

    I appreciate the tone of your comment, but you missed the point of this thread, this is not about beta or not, it is about devs putting server quality on last place during development, look at the server crash issue right now for example, and the exploit that can crash servers easily.
     
  9. ReverendJ

    ReverendJ Poptop Tamer

    His mother was a hamster and his father smelt of elderberries
     
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  10. Serenity

    Serenity The Waste of Time

    Not long because it's a simple answer.

    I don't play multiplayer much, but I understand that it's frustrating. In the end all we can do is wait.
     
  11. Fiben Bolger

    Fiben Bolger Pangalactic Porcupine

    This guy is quite the piece of work. A sure frontrunner for the Furious Koala awards and it's only been a few hours.
     
  12. Idk, we're kind of lucky to have any network functionality at all. Usually that stuff is worked on in secret and then tested later from what I've seen, considering this isn't an mmo, although it does seem like the sandbox genre has been developing both single and multiplayer simultaneously due to the expectation that people are going to play this online.

    I do think that over half of the community is a bit of a stretch though, I think more people play onsies and twosie LAN servers than on large servers atm. I do enjoy playing online, but inherent instability atm makes it undesirable for me to play on a server, so I roll single player for the most time. I do want server side worked on, but I'd rather have the core single player more polished and then multiplayer, but then again I didn't make the software so idk if it'd be any less stringent to test it separately.
     
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  13. Archer

    Archer Spaceman Spiff

    This what you said here is key :)

    Imagine how this game could thrive, if multiplayer worked completely fine, the community would explode even further!
     
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  14. SexualRhinoceros

    SexualRhinoceros Existential Complex

    You're hurting the side you're arguing for with nonsensical responses, please stop :/



    IMO I feel one of the first things that should have been worked on was multiplayer as thats the area thats most frequently exploited. A ton of people are willing to download any file and use it on their server as they did with Zidonuke's Wrapper and I'm sure there'll be more that'll come out and end up trying to exploit the user. Sure, you can say its in Beta and its still being worked on, but how long will the excuse work for? The game may be in beta, but its being looked at and played as if its a full release. At most, we should at least be given a working client to host servers as we have yet to receive one (last updates's memory leaks, this update's phantom crashes). But like I said in the other thread, I guess you don't always get what you want so I'll patiently wait like the rest of the world :D
     
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  15. Serenity

    Serenity The Waste of Time

    What if arguments don't really change the current situation
    http://playstarbound.com/how-the-beta-is-going-to-work/
     
  16. Archer

    Archer Spaceman Spiff

  17. Serenity

    Serenity The Waste of Time

    Make what big enough?
     
  18. o0AzzA0o

    o0AzzA0o Space Hobo

  19. Serenity

    Serenity The Waste of Time

    ok, speak softly and carry a big stick, it will take you far. Has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
     
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  20. Archer

    Archer Spaceman Spiff

    Well, if that's the question you are asking... Why are you posting on this thread then? Can you do something else besides posting "IT'S BETA SO SHUT IT"? Because that's everything I've seen you doing so far on constructive threads everywhere on this forum... Don't you know better?

    You honestly believe that is going to contribute to the daily issues posted on here? Do you even know what the hell a BETA is? It's where the bugs are supposed to be ironed out, and this is one of them, and it's not even slightly a small one.

    It's a rather large and critical bug actually, it's an exploit that makes any monkey able to take down servers at their will within seconds, and it can be demonstrated very easily if you want.
     
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