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I don't think the game should bury the sci-fi.

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by nomotog, Dec 7, 2013.

  1. Zulgaines

    Zulgaines Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    It does. The setting is a Sci-Fi universe where most planets are capable of supporting life, but the amount of sentient life is still heavily scattered about.

    AKA: A universe of mostly undeveloped worlds where high tech super cities are rare special cases but backwoods outposts with laser rifles sitting next to campfires and horses isn't unusual.
     
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  2. NateTronic

    NateTronic Subatomic Cosmonaut

    If you want to play the "realism" game then you have to apply that to the entire game and not just one aspect.
    Like why can we repair diamond picks with copper ore? We can materialize a GIANT MECH out of thin air, so being able to craft laser drills and what not is not a far stretch when it comes to "realism" within the games context
     
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  3. Dynafols

    Dynafols Black Hole Surfer

    I understand rebuilding yourself back up from next to nothing, but gosh darn I'm in gamma and I'm still using a pickaxe and stone axe.
     
  4. GeorgeV

    GeorgeV Art Director

    I've said it before and I'll say it again.

    Beta. Only provided first few tiers so far. More coming and it will get more scifi as you progress.

    For example we'll give a drill soon for digging. We'll probably give updates to the matter manipulator. etc etc. You start just scrounging up what you can and you build up to an extent.
     
  5. Akiflyer

    Akiflyer Astral Cartographer

    Because before getting lose in-space you didn't remember to pack those things up. Have you tried creating a power drill by yourself?... it's what I thought. You start over as a caveman then and if you noticed, apart from the apex who probably have every equipment on lockdown, all races are a bit behind on technology... by end game you'll have power tools.
     
  6. Dynafols

    Dynafols Black Hole Surfer

    So how the heck is a caveman suppose to kill a UFO?!
     
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  7. Zulgaines

    Zulgaines Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    With style.
     
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  8. nomotog

    nomotog Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    I know the high tech stuff is coming. I'm mostly saying it should show up right away. Like in the first tier. I think the game should lead with it rather then bury it a few tiers in.
     
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  9. Chandrak

    Chandrak Phantasmal Quasar

    It IS easy. All you need to do is go look up a planet where they are located in one of the giant threads here.
     
  10. dionysus81

    dionysus81 Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    No, you should not start with it, you fled from whatever situation you were in, you were lucky to have a spaceship and some stuff on it. You start out by building a pickaxe, because that is actually something that is not hard to make and is a better suited tool to mine stuff than your matter manipulator. Your character most likely wasn't a mechanic or engineer, so he doesn't know how to create technological marvels, he has to start at zero and learn along the way.

    Just like it would be easier for you in real life to create chalk and paper to keep a journal when you are dropped in a forest, than it would be for you to create a computer. You know what a computer is, but are you able to create it with all the materials you can find in said forest?
     
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  11. nomotog

    nomotog Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Looking up planets is good. I think it's defiantly a valid way to play, but having to look up where to buy a gun well enemies drop tons of melee weapons is clearly unbalanced. If it's an accident that guns are so rare, it should be fixed. If it's working as intended, I say it's not smart to bury the tech. The guns are one of the games big selling points.
     
  12. Zsword

    Zsword Pangalactic Porcupine

    I think around Tier 3 you should be able to start making racial side arms, cause the Brain Extractor IS a gun, not a very good one, but, it uses all the mechanics, and I feel that the Brain Extractor's 'gun' usabilty is Tiers 2s big 'gameplay' changer? (Cause every tier is allegedly supposed to have a new mechanic to play with) and having -a- gun is tier 2s, and that gets refined properly in Tier 3 when you might be able to make a proper ranged weapon that isn't a dinky bow...

    cause, currently, with exception of the Iron Bow in Tier 1, the Hunting Bows, are terrible. Maybe a 'Hunting Rifle' and 'basic Shotgun' in tier 3 that the player can build, then let the player build, like, a basic assault rifle, and pistol, on top of a new shotgun and hunting rifle in Tier 4, and etc. (Also, need more craftable shields... the one right now, just doesn't cut it for those of us who wanna Sword/Board play...)
     
  13. Akiflyer

    Akiflyer Astral Cartographer

    You get a cave, make a fireplace, steal a tent from bandits, go to town, Raid it? or buy weapons, collect ore make a silver set and ambush it.... I started with nothing, now I have 30k pixels and level 10 guns....or you could summon it near a town and have NPCs help you.
     
  14. Dynafols

    Dynafols Black Hole Surfer

    Raid what from them? The most I have is a silly little iron bow. We need more projectiles for this boss.
     
  15. Akiflyer

    Akiflyer Astral Cartographer

    Their chests are filled with gold, silver and iron. Also if you kill them they drop weapons. For guns, go to another planet and look for sky pirates... and then kill them too.

    .... I might be a psychopath.
     
  16. Quenton

    Quenton Phantasmal Quasar

    Well, the escape ship you jumped into in order to get away didn't have a jackhammer or drill in it. Nor do you have the parts to make one.. at least not yet. So, what do you do now?
     
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  17. RobertRevenge

    RobertRevenge Pangalactic Porcupine

    The same way I did. Double-jump tech and a AP6 2handed sword.
     
  18. WingPecker

    WingPecker Tentacle Wrangler

    Looking in the assets folder of the game, I have found a Mining Laser, a Chainsaw, a Grapple Gun (Uses a Grappling Hook), a Large Gravity Gun, and a Fishaxe Mining Tool. So the tools will change. In the future.
     
  19. RobertRevenge

    RobertRevenge Pangalactic Porcupine

    I hope we get an All-In-One like the Hamdrax, though I suppose that would just be an upgraded Matter Manipulator.
     
  20. Drewdawg

    Drewdawg Big Damn Hero

    I'm glad you aren't a dev.
     
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