(How) Will you metagame?

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I'm curious to see, whether I and my crew are the only ones who have sworn an oath not to do any kind of metagaming in Starbound.

Not quite sure what I'm talking about? Metagaming is essentially utilizing tools, knowledge and methods outside of the actual game experience to gain an advantage inside the game.
For example, say there is this one planet seed which has the most ultra rarest ore at one particular spot. With some effort, you could just keep copying this planet over and over and thus get this ore endlessly (Still legitly, but arguably not in the intended way).
Or say, you don't want to miss out on any recipes or items and look at the Wiki, so you know about everything.

In my opinion, things like these ruin games, especially the ones which can be competitive in some way or another:

"Oh hey, I found an Ultra Mega Lava Sword!!"
"Oh yeah ... I got twenty of those. There's an easy way to get them, described on the Wiki."
"Dude, what the F."

or

"Hehe, look what I built!"
"Hey, I want that, too. What's the recipe?"
"Hrhr, I'm not telling~"
--7 minutes later--
"Hey, now you have it, too! How did you find out?"
"I looked it up on the Wiki."
"Dude, what the F."

Particularly in Starbound, where I think the focus lies mainly on exploration and experimentation, I feel one kills the experiences of not only himself but also of the ones playing alongside him.

But it's not at my liberty to judge how you should play the game. Done that enough while convincing my friends already.

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That's an interesting question. I don't plan to use metagaming knowlegde to gain some advantages in Starbound, like the use of seed. However, I will definitly use the wiki for some things later (not during my first week though), though it doesn't seem said wiki will be needed. It's not like in Minecraft, where unless you memorize every single recipe you have to use a wiki sometimes to remember some.

 

I'm never going to cheat on Starbound, ever...and my friends have a strict rule about that aswell, but they have the tendency to look up a lot of things, and they come back 2 minutes later saying ,"HEY, ANY OF YOU DOPES GOT SOME POTATOS?" And I just sit there like

But I like to find things on my own so that'll be my oath on SP.

 

I voted for dashes, because I like morse code.

Also, Ill prolly play legit right till the end, and then start hacking when I have done everything else I can do.

 

The thrill of discovery and the unknown randomness of generated worlds is what makes a game like this so enticing to me. I typically do not do things like 'metagaming' until I feel I've played the game to the fullest potential on my own.

 

Well this really isn't minecraft(Not the xbox version, the pc.) , all items we learn to craft in game will show the recipes. That is what I gathered. The only time I look something up is when I need serious help progressing through the game. It doesn't take away the effort to get something, It just means less flailing around in the dark hoping to get something. Again, I wouldn't do it for something I want just what I need. And what I mean by need is that like at least a month of being lost and confused and I need it to progress.

Edit: No answers for this poll fit me. So I will not answer it.

 

Is pen+paper considered metagaming?
Also
"I'm curious to see, whether I and my crew are the only ones who have sworn an oath not to do any kind of metagaming in Starbound."
So your "Crew" is more of a Solo Collective?

 

I see no real reason not to look at a wiki or faq for something I may simply have overlooked or some bit of knowledge I may not have known. .. your example with looking up a recipe is bluntly silly. It shouldn't be some great secret how to craft something like say bricks in minecraft or ruin anyones enjoyment by knowing how to do so.

Unlike Tiy who freaks out over spoilers my view is totally different. Knowledge of something isn't the EXPERIENCE of something. I know about the grand canyon and where it is.. seen videos and all that. Yet I've never experienced going there.

There is a difference, its why lets plays will never scuttle game sales. Why spoilers really don't mean much. Because knowing of, can never replace doing or seeing with your own eyes.

 

Do I seem that antisocial? "Crew" was referring to the people I usually play games with.

I know why it seems silly to you, but that's exactly where sometimes views break apart radically. See, for me this example (although it is just make-do) is exactly what I'd hate to see happen in the game.

I totally see your point, too. The fun of actually doing something you know about is something different than just knowing about it.
But going with your example, for me personally, the experience of DISCOVERING something is half the fun (not necessarily discovering bricks or something as essential. However, if it is essential then it shouldn't be hard to find out about, anyway). And someone who just looks up details on a wiki skips that experience entirely (and ruins it for those who wished to do it 'genuinely').

If that however doesn't bother you, then there's no problem (we just shouldn't play together. )

 

I will discover everything by myself.

 

I'll probably look at the wiki once i've reached "endgame" for at least some recipes on furniture or place-able objects I may want in my house. Otherwise, with Tiy's "spoiler free" policy, i'll try to find out as much as I can on my own since it MUST be good if hes that keen on keeping it under wraps.

 

I plan on modding. So yes.
Well, I mean, to a point I want to be oblivious about everything in the game until I discover it on my own. But when I start toying with mechanics and items,
I'll want to look up everything there is.

 

My plan is to have no help whatsoever in my discovery of all that is Starbound.
While I can understand why someone might look up a recipe or use a certain seed for items, personally I'd rather find ways to lengthen my gaming experience instead of shorten it.
I mean, how hard could it be to discover everything?
Edit: hadn't thought about it, but I suppose at some point I will be modding and will have to look up a few things. Hopefully I discover everything before that point, but I probably won't.

 

I see no problems with Wikis and FAQs, specially if your stuck. Then there will be all the modding, I will not go over board, especially as someone who has never modded before. I think the only mod I would use, will allow my Glitch to have legs that go to one wheel instead of normal legs. Other than that, I will likely just play the game has it was intended, including all the patches and DLCs.

 

But if you are playing,for example Starbound, and one of the people you usually game with,appears with a really nice looking suit of armour, would you ask that person how to make it? or would you soldier on and get there by yourself?
Or in the case of the example you used
You: "Hehe, look what I built!"
Friend: "Hey, I want that, too. What's the recipe?"
You: "Hrhr, I'm not telling~"
--7 minutes later--
You: "Hey, now you have it, too! How did you find out?"
Friend: "I looked it up on the Wiki."
You: "Dude, what the F."
--Friend Logs out

 

We would start the game, explore and discover together. At least in my group, we make it a point to only play a cooperative game when the whole party is online. Sharing discoveries (like recipes, or how to make that armor) then wouldn't be a problem. He wouldn't have that armor without me seeing or hearing him get it. This of course doesn't necessarily mean things can't happen independently, but in the grand scheme of things it's mutual progress. I just don't like playing with someone who knows substantially more in the game, be it through a wiki or experience.
And frankly, the people I play with wouldn't ragequit like that (I hope).

 

After I feel I've 'completed' the game I usually go to the wiki to fill in any gaps or look up stuff I might have missed. For Terraria I didn't visit the wiki until after I had built molten armor and a molten pickaxe (this was before water would evaporate) only to find out I was supposed to build meteorite or whatever gear before other stuff. Then when the update came out I didn't mess around with it until after I had gotten the next top tier stuff and then went on the wiki and started grabbing items like the yin and yang maceball thing just for fun.

I mostly don't feel upset that someone has the same items as me so long as they actually worked for it. I met my friend on Terraria one day and he had the bunny pet and I asked him where he got it and he told me that he didn't know he just put it in his inv with invedit. He hadn't even fought a single boss in the game. To me that kind of stuff ruins games where you don't work for your stuff. I'm not bothered by people having rare items, just that when a challenge is put into place that others bypass it. Though I do like having stuff others don't have. This is why I was always happy to have the death's demise title on WoW before I quit, because it was a huge challenge and no one else had it.

 

I'd say, unless I was genuinely stuck/helpless on something, I wouldn't metagame. So, I'd so no, I don't plan on it. But sometimes you actually need to know how a mechanic works. I typically use wikis to figure out mechanics I don't understand (fluid mechanics for instance.)

Also, I do plan on using pen+paper. Yeah, old-school. I played FO1-NV with pen+paper. Along with all the elderscrolls. Personally, I find it fun.

Edit: By pen+paper I mean taking IC notes. It helps reinforce the immersion for me.

 

Heh. I'm absolutely that guy.
I always host servers for my friends, so I tend to look up absolutely everything about a game before playing it with them. I don't boast about the knowledge usually, I only describe the basics and the general flow the game wants you to go through, so our ventures together aren't a complete mess. I feel like a walking tutorial, but at least that's a good thing for my friends.

Surprisingly though, I haven't really gotten around to it with this game. I sort of lost track of how much content was being put into the game, and haven't had the time to search up what I missed.