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How do I make ice crystal?

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by Xanguine, Dec 14, 2013.

  1. Xanguine

    Xanguine Star Wrangler

    I found some geometric schematics for really nice ice themed furniture but it requires ice crystal to be made which I can't seem to find anywhere.
    So is there a way to make ice crystal?
     
  2. M4X_L10N

    M4X_L10N The Court

    Bump.
    Anyone know where to get ice crystal? Trying to craft geometric screen =[
     
  3. Sorya

    Sorya Zero Gravity Genie

    Think you get them from some ice trees? Unless it's some different crystals they drop. I encountered some of these trees in a molten biome.
     
  4. shucklefan1

    shucklefan1 Phantasmal Quasar

    Yes you do. But you rarely get them.
     
  5. Xanguine

    Xanguine Star Wrangler

    The ice trees drop regular ice and the crystal trees drop regular crystal, no ice crystal. :(
    The metal trees in magma/vulcano biomes drop metal coated wood.
     
  6. Rainbow Dash

    Rainbow Dash Oxygen Tank

    the ice crystles are found nere the core in snow/tuntria planets
    atlest thats were i found mine
     
  7. dofo

    dofo Aquatic Astronaut

    Apparently whats also up, is that there's a mini biome called the Geometric Biome. It is found on snow and tundra planets.
     
  8. ___MeRliN___

    ___MeRliN___ Guest

    Freezing water. Then it will crystalize and form ice. That means either: Cool your water down to 0°C or lower (273 K) or increase the enviremental pressure by ALOT. I would suggest trying the "cool the water down" variant using a fridge.

    Well actually go to a tundra planet, find a geometric biome and there are your icecrystals. Not sure if the recipes for the furniture got fixed though...
     
  9. Akado

    Akado Oxygen Tank

    Remember that salt water needs to be cooled down below 0°C. Thank you, 9th grade science class.

    Personally, I've gone through at least 3 geometric biomes, and I've found ice blocks, if you use ("e") the ice globes instead of attacking them (which provides regular ice), but I haven't found any Crystals that would be useful for the geometric stuff. Are they really rare, or do they only exist near the core of snow/tundra planets?
     
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  10. ___MeRliN___

    ___MeRliN___ Guest

    Lot of chemestry "shit" in the spoiler cause I felt like it, cause its fun for me ^^



    Yeah, thats true, if you have salt water you need to go down to arround -21°C, but if you use that what I usually drink then 0°C should be fine... well ~0°C depending on mineral concentration in the water. If the concentration of minerals is higher then the freezing point will be lower... Also interesting fact: Putting sugar in water has a similar effect on its freezing point. Why is that? Because you basicly got then there lots of smaller molecules soluted in a liquid. That makes it harder for the water to recrystalize and therefor results in a lower freezing point. While sugar is a very wide area of terms and molecules lets take C12H22O11 as example, thats normal white crystal sugar you use to make cakes for instance. That stuff might be a by far bigger molecule then salt (NaCL) but lets take a look on it... C12H22O11 is less "polarised". That means there are less big differences in electrical charge in the molecule itself, means the components of the molecule are less likely ionizing themself. NaCl is different in that: Sodium is a very potent electron donator while Chlorine is an extremly good electron acceptor while lets see in C12H22O11... you got oxygen, also a very good electron acceptor... Carbon... meh that is a very interesting element, but usually tend to work as bridge between the Hydrogen and the Oxygen in such compounds. Hydrogen however is again a electron donator in almost any configurations, a weak one but its still one. Its a worse electron donator compared to Sodium. So lets move to Salt: Sodium will ALWAYS send electrons to the chlorine, and chlorine will ALWAYS accept more likely electrons in that configuration we got with NaCl. That results in following: Electrons tend to be more often at the Chlorine giving it a partially negativ charge while for the Sodium there tend to be less electrons doing the exact opposite which results in a partially positiv charge. That polarisation adds in addition to the effect of lowering the freezing point of water. C12H22O11 has also a partial polarisation but its by far weaker then compared to NaCl. Last but not least: Salt is soluted alot easier in water and just by its presents it hinders water from crystalizing. While C12H22O11 basicly does the same it and it is obviously a larger molecule then salt it does not "possess" any potent partial polarisation in it therefor: TL DR:Sugar lowers the freezing point of water, but not as good as salt, but still prevents water from freezing at 0°C. Hehe that was fun ^^



    About the geometric biomes: On surface they seem to be extremly rare... I found those biomes more often in caves then anywhere else... and even if you find those on the surface... I think the trees were bugged (except they fixed it, havent find a surface biome of that type in the most recent version)... well before most recent patch I do believe they dropped iceblocks instead of ice crystals, making those trees almost worthless...
     
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  11. Fiben Bolger

    Fiben Bolger Pangalactic Porcupine

    Who's Crystal?

    And for the lack of a comma in the title, the joke failed.
     

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