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Fuel for the ship? no more wood?

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by wolvern, Dec 10, 2013.

  1. wolvern

    wolvern Orbital Explorer

    Noticed that wood no longer works and i couldn't find any patch notes in long enough detail to tell me this has been removed....

    I did search for a few keywords regarding it but didn't find anything on it in any patch text i saw
     
  2. Mansen

    Mansen Subatomic Cosmonaut

    Wood doesn't work anymore, no. Better start digging some coal.
     
  3. Spaps

    Spaps Void-Bound Voyager

    Coal for the first tiers. Then mine Uranium and Plutonium.
     
  4. Divertido

    Divertido Space Hobo

    I really think Coal needs to be less rare - I shouldn't be able to locate more iron/silver/copper than I can for coal. Especially seeing as you're using coal to make the torches that you need to dig to find the coal. With the game being in beta, it shouldn't be as difficult to use the travel system when starting a character.
     
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  5. Aninimouse

    Aninimouse Space Hobo

    I don't have that problem Diver. Coal is easily the most common for me.
     
  6. Terrahero

    Terrahero Cosmic Narwhal

    This can be entirely subjective on a case by case basis. Ore generation seems to be somewhat upset as people have been getting very rich silver and gold veins fairly close to the surface on early planets.

    Ore generation, from what i gather, is still in need of tweaking. However the amount of coal we got before was more then enough for me to power my ship, and as a result ive never burned a single piece of wood to power my ship and i traveled plenty.
    So i do not object to nerfing wood and not allowing it as a fuel source anymore.
     
  7. Divertido

    Divertido Space Hobo

    Maybe its a planet thing - I'm def having trouble finding coal with the new char i've started this evening, However, I had noticed it prior to the patch as well when i was travelling using wood.

    I think the idea of travelling through space using wood as fuel is absurd so I don't mind that they've removed the option, but a viable alternative in the earlier stages of the game - whilst its still in beta - would be good.
     
  8. MDK

    MDK Aquatic Astronaut

    I'm not sure about this change. It's probably a good idea to make space travel a bit harder, but on the other hand what will players now do with all that extra wood. Maybe a compromise where you can burn wood in the furnace to make coal. That way it's would also be a lot easier to tweak since the devs can just change the ratio on how many pieces of wood you need to generate one coal.
     
  9. Wolfedg

    Wolfedg Pangalactic Porcupine

    This has its good and bad points. On the one hand It will make travel at low levels a lot harder. On the other hand It will prevent deforestation on a galactic scale.
     
  10. Merkhad

    Merkhad Void-Bound Voyager

    Not sure about this one but I was expecting those space ships to be fuelled with Uranium or Plutonium only in the first place. I'm all for Steam Punk designed games but throwing ships into space warp using wood or coal doesn't thrill me much. And I was happy about the challenged of finding a real energy source for my ship, only to be eventually disappointed when I found out that I could just chuck in wood logs to launch myself to the next planet. So I'm personaly glad that wood is gone from the list actually. Next step would ne to take out coal too please :D

    Hopefully we'll see trees growing again from uncut stumps, or be able to plant them at some point. I'm all for tree protection policies too ;)
     
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  11. Aninimouse

    Aninimouse Space Hobo

    This, combined with the condensed difficulty tiers in sectors is all pretty strange honestly. From what I've gathered at least.

    "Here's a sector with more planets than you could ever hope to explore in your lifetime or whatever.
    But, now you probably don't even need to visit more than one planet, but if you do want to explore more than one, just for fun, it's a little more grindy and difficult for you."
     
  12. jetsetdizzy

    jetsetdizzy Big Damn Hero

    I like it. Fuel urgency is more exciting and wood is used on too much other stuff anyway.
     
  13. MDK

    MDK Aquatic Astronaut

    I think one thing people are missing here is that Chuckle fish will most likely tweak the balance. They can can A. increase/decrease the amount of coal found on planets B. increase/decrease amount of coal required for 1 fuel C. create alternate sources of coal (like burning wood). So this change in itself isn't a huge issue as long as it will be balanced correctly.
     
  14. Aninimouse

    Aninimouse Space Hobo

    And if no one says anything about the balance and just assumes 'they'll balance it out themselves', well... :p
     
  15. MDK

    MDK Aquatic Astronaut

    Well this is stage 1 beta. There will be so many changes that fine tuning balance might be a bit unpractical. I'm sure the devs will still balance this even if nobody mentions it at stage 1.
     

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