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Fuel/Coal Crisis, and how to fix it

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by Rainbow Dash, Dec 11, 2013.

  1. Minister Max

    Minister Max The Court

    I agree with you but please for the love of whatever deity you might believe in, get some sort of spell check app for whatever browser you use.
     
  2. Rainbow Dash

    Rainbow Dash Oxygen Tank

    thanks for the reasonable reply, it was my 1st idea too but there arnt any desert planets that are within travling distence =(
     
  3. natedawgusmc

    natedawgusmc Tentacle Wrangler

    While I too felt like tearing my eye balls out looking at "witch" all the time, I do agree with your posts. The flat truth is removing wood as a fuel source was a bad idea all around. Honestly this entire patch really just feels like changes I have to "deal" with, not changes that I am excited about. I know they are testing things and working out the bugs, but I don't like to see moves in the wrong direction during beta. Being slaughtered by the aces of the sky, and playing "where's waldo?" with the ores is just not fun for me at all.

    Also for a game that many have been anticipating eagerly for a long time it has a horrible community here on the forums. I have only been reading the forums for a couple of days now and the amount of times I have seen trolls, and "bye you wont be missed" are staggering.
     
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  4. Korva

    Korva Astral Cartographer

    It is mind boggling how some people fail utterly to find the darkest looking ore on planets or moons. It is literally everywhere. I had around 800 coal when i left my home planet. Now through with the available content of the patch and still sitting pretty on couple thousand coal, few hundreds of uranium, solarium and plutonium.
     
  5. Unwerth

    Unwerth Void-Bound Voyager

    Did you seriously never think to pick up torches and campfires? Did you just now, after running out of fuel, remember that they used coal? Really?
     
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  6. Minister Max

    Minister Max The Court


    I could easily make a 5-10 minute video displaying the absence of coal on my game, if you'd like.
     
  7. narbays

    narbays Space Hobo

    I think the removal of wood as a fuel source was a good change. Wood is too abundant, it makes it so people just hop from planet to planet and the cost to go to these planets is so negligable that it might as well not be there.

    You want the space travel to cost something for your character. Having wood as the cost is tantamount to not having a cost at all.



    Besides, the OP is at a point in the game where the steel ingots require coal. As soon as you get passed that teir, and move on to higher ores that do not require coal, you will have a massive surplus of coal. And as far as running out of coal on your planet.... Think about it. You start the game without fuel standed on the planet. Isn't the smart choice to first and foremost secure a source of fuel so this never happens again? As in make sure your ship has 1000 fuel or at the very minimum 200 at all times, so you're never stuck again? Not that you could ever be stuck again, because digging a couple dozen tiles down and left/right is full of coal.
     
  8. Rainbow Dash

    Rainbow Dash Oxygen Tank

    also RNG is RNG
    case you didnt know the game runs on one =p
     
  9. Korva

    Korva Astral Cartographer

    Well, there is your problem. 5-10minutes is nothing in game like this.
     
  10. Sikelh

    Sikelh Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    This can get incredibly tedious when mining though and not everybody has the same level of patience as you or I.
     
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  11. natedawgusmc

    natedawgusmc Tentacle Wrangler

    Since the patch many people have had issues where ores are not spawning correctly and as such coal is now a rare ore. On my starter planet after the patch it took me 1 1/2hr to farm enough coal for 20 torches. At that rate it will take me a week to get off the first planet, and I have to hope I pick a good one to land on next because I wont be getting off of it soon. So Im not sure if you just cant read or choose to ignore the fact that this patch was not perfect and has hindered a bunch of people so your pompous attitude is not helping anything.
     
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  12. Minister Max

    Minister Max The Court

    Oh boy, a smartass.

    Let me rephrase then, I could easily make a 1-5 hour video displaying the absence of coal on my game if you'd like.
     
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  13. Syxx6

    Syxx6 Starship Captain

    Your Avatar suits your spelling and grammar perfectly.. seriously, everyone re read this and picture his avatar saying it. Soooo much more fun that way.
     
  14. DawnOfNights

    DawnOfNights Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    I quite like the fact that fuel needs actual work to get now, instead of just chopping down a forest. It gives you an actual reason to set up camp, and you stay on planets longer, which I think is nice.
    Though, I do suppose we could use another alternate fuel source as a fallback, maybe another mineral that is as abundant as coal, but only gives 1 fuel instead of 2.
    Another one would maybe be to add an oil liquid in the game, that can stored in containers and gives 4 fuel per single entity.


    Also, grammar is not that important, not everyone is as good with grammar as you , so stop whining. Being able to read it is good enough, and it's not like OP did it on purpose
     
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  15. Korva

    Korva Astral Cartographer

    Funny how none of my 5 characters had such problems yet. Maybe i increase the sample size then. I highly doubt this is anything else than impatience and lazyness.
     
  16. natedawgusmc

    natedawgusmc Tentacle Wrangler

    Right there with you Max. For some people if it does not affect them then they don't care what it does to others.
     
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  17. Rainbow Dash

    Rainbow Dash Oxygen Tank

    while i do like saying on planets longer is nicer, being stuck on it for
    well its been 3 hours now, isnt fun
    and atlest you arnt anoyed at my grammer, tho i find it funny how much grammer can anooys people
     
  18. Evangelion

    Evangelion Supernova

    Patience? You mean the one whole second it takes to pull the torch down with even the matter manipulator?
     
  19. natedawgusmc

    natedawgusmc Tentacle Wrangler


    Ok troll is now confirmed. Operation starve the troll must now commence.
     
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  20. Minister Max

    Minister Max The Court

    How ignorant is the idea that a problem must not exist because you don't experience it yourself. I've experienced people like this so many times in forums now i'm not even surprised by the lack of logic used in the answers people like you give. You're claiming people to be lazy because of a problem you're fortunate not to be experiencing.

    Then you're also probably trolling, so there's that.
     
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