From what we have seen what are your most disliked things in the game?

Sir ceil · Oct 28, 2013

M C said: ↑

dafudge is that for a thing?
it looks like some weird thing made out of plastic filled with water..
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It was a Joke. You said Po monsters don't belong in a game like Starbound. but star bound represents a Space game with other quirky stuff. So why Wouldn't there be a Po golem? That is actually a Portuguese man O' War it is an actual animal.

DeadlyLuvdisc · Oct 28, 2013

The smiling mobs. While some think it may seem creepy, I think it's just poor visual design.

Regal Kain · Oct 28, 2013

Garish Gnome said: ↑

The needing 700 kinds of ammo argument is absurd.

There could quite easily be universal ammo which all guns use. The guns charge the special metal(s) the bullets are made from with electricity which encapsulates the round in a physical field whose characteristics depend on the weapon. A pistol would produce a weak and/or smaller field, a rifle a stronger and larger one, and a grenade launcher would have a much larger field which decays quickly due to it also compressing a large amount of energy (which could release in various forms, again, based on the weapon). Done. If various ammo tiers happened to be desired (though note: completely unnecessary), the power could be determined by the purity/balance of the special metal(s) in the bullets. Similar/identical systems have been used in plenty of sci-fi stories/games and works extremely well (partially due to its potential in reality).

Having said that, I think no ammo was chosen as a coddling design decision much more than anything else... right before they added plenty of contradictory mechanics like hunger and cold.
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They started with ammo in the game actually, the problem they ran into was what you propose, that being a single universal bullet, wasn't really liked as an idea by the general populace, as it felt kind of cheap. The only thing having a single ammo type does (in my opinion) is add a single slot in your inventory devoted to holding 9999 of that ammo, GG we're done here. All of your guns fire from it,t hen it gives you a false idea of ammo conservation, instead of energy conservation. Forgive me but, if you're going to make all guns fire the same ammo, why bother adding ammo in at all?

KittenIgnition · Oct 28, 2013

MrLevi said: ↑

Keep in mind though, hi-res is probably a lot more work for the artists and is harder to keep things consistent. Low-res is probably the reason we are able to have randomized monsters and so much content in the first place.
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That doesn't change how much I hate it in the slightest. Starbound is supposed to be an amazing game, and yet here it is, with its horrendously low resolution sprites and textures. I may be overstating it a bit, but they could look a lot better. It's so bad that it's hard to properly distinguish between things. Male and female versions of characters have, in the worst case, two or three pixels changed. There is no difference in their appearance. It annoys me.

MrLevi · Oct 28, 2013

KittenIgnition said: ↑

That doesn't change how much I hate it in the slightest. Starbound is supposed to be an amazing game, and yet here it is, with its horrendously low resolution sprites and textures. I may be overstating it a bit, but they could look a lot better. It's so bad that it's hard to properly distinguish between things. Male and female versions of characters have, in the worst case, two or three pixels changed. There is no difference in their appearance. It annoys me.
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Fair enough.

flamingfirewarrior · Oct 28, 2013

ZangooseSlash said: ↑

The po/golem.

It's ridiculously childish. Toilet humor is just... ugh.
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Ironic, when you look at your profile picture. Fallout is known for it's dry and sometimes tasteless humor.

Edit: Feel like an idiot. I'd always thought that toilet humor was a type of bad humor that poked fun at culturally incorrect things (911 jokes for instance) I hadn't actually thought that it was literally about toilets and the business done in them. Sorry to have criticized.

Wulpher · Oct 28, 2013

I don't like the story. I'm supposed to believe I escaped Earth? Laughable. How can I escape Earth when I am far to absorbed in this forum? I would be the first to die. Details people, details.

M C · Oct 28, 2013

Sir ceil said: ↑

It was a Joke. You said Po monsters don't belong in a game like Starbound. but starbound represents a Space game with other quirky stuff. So why Wouldn't there be a Po golem? That is actually a Portuguese man O' War it is an actual animal.
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except i never said i was against the Po golem, was just asking what the thing was but i never knew animals like that exists.
would be funny to run into one.

Wulpher · Oct 28, 2013

Everybody dissin' the Po Golem like their shit don't stink.

=D AH! GET IT?

XaoG · Oct 28, 2013

The Po annoy me, and durability can go die in a fire. Aside from that, I can't think of much I've seen that I really disliked, at least off hand.

DrSpoy · Oct 28, 2013

Well, its been said a lot before already, but the po. I'm fine with low class humor, I'm fine with dumb humor and tend to make terrible puns myself sometimes. Hell, I even laughed a mix between a sarcastic laugh and a genuine laugh when I saw one of the new enemies in the Terraria halloween update is called Mourning Wood. But stuff like toilet humor is just reaching for lowest common denominator.

Oh, and as its been brought up before but from what I've seen, some extra foliage and etc would be nice.

Camelslayer · Oct 28, 2013

x6snake6x said: ↑

I think some mobs look silly and maybe even a bit out of place with the rest of the game's aesthetic. Also some inconsistencies such as the wing animation on this fly compared to other winged mobs we've seen (that also have fly style wings).
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Some do look weird, but that's the unfortunate headache caused by random generation.

reversePsychologist · Oct 28, 2013

I'd say I don't like the colors of the painting tool/generated monsters, and also the bit of inconsistency that seems to haunt the overall tone of the game from what we have seen so far. At first I thought it was a complaint from the kind of fans nitpicking because the game is taking longer than they expected to come out and they are stuck rewatching all of the things released so far and eventually starting to find little insignificant things to complain about in them, but I gotta admit in this case they might be accidentally right. And no, it's not about the Po's, in general the game has serious and funny things weirdly mixed, but that's just an impression and I'll have to see the full game to judge.

I mean, such a thing has worked with other games anyway.

claudekennilol · Oct 28, 2013

Starfinder said: ↑

This is Completely wrong.
If you saw truly what starbound has to offer, and not to mention how many more items and block types there will be, 1.2 has nothing on Starbound, and Terraria is going to recieve little to no updates anymore and Starbound will have so many updates that we will never run out of content, and not to mention that all terraria worlds feel the same..it's terrible.
You must be a fanboy.
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No, it's not completely wrong. My concern is that Terraria has half-bricks and Starbound doesn't and that Terraria has lots of random vegetation (weeds and flowers and grass that look natural). Starbound does not have half-bricks (period). And while they've got the gold on the trees, as it is now Terraria also has the best "random vegetation". These two things in Terraria's last major update (which as the first person to respond to you said is still being updated), add so much aesthetically to the game it's beyond good.

In the future, please refrain from telling people their opinion is "Completely wrong". It's just not becoming. Other games are going to be better at certain aspects than Starbound--it doesn't matter how good of a game Starbound will be; it simply can't be the best at everything it has to offer.

Starfinder said: ↑

He was basically saying that Starbound will be absolute crap in compairision to Terraria's update.
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You're reading way too much into it and couldn't be more wrong. I was listing my concerns--of which there are only two that I can think of. This is a thread about the things "we dislike". I shouldn't have to defend myself in a thread about things where we post what we dislike by additionally posting the inordinate amount of things Starbound appears to be already doing properly.

ViolentByDesign · Oct 28, 2013

Spears can't be used in a 360 degree axis like Terraria (not saying it should). They seem like a bad version of other melee weapons only thrusting forwards with no overhead swing protection.

resistentialist · Oct 28, 2013

I had some issues with timing (a note that starts during an already held note, etc) and getting my score to look like my sheet music, so I wrote my ABC like this.

Code:

Intro stuff (X:/T:/M:/L:/Q:/K:)
[V:1] first line
[V:2] plays at the same time as the first line
[V:1] second line
[V:2] plays at the same time as the second line

Check out this thread:http://community.playstarbound.com/index.php?threads/the-starbound-music-guide.25216/

Examples:

fallingorbit · Oct 28, 2013

Air tree said: ↑

Well i was just wondering this as so far all we have seen are mainly positive threads i would like to see some things you have seen that you didn't like or not liking what you are seeing so far.

This doesn't mean you don't like the game just something that's in it or a choice that's been made by the dev's.
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That would be really difficult to answer without playing the game, because a lot of it is contextual. It either works or it doesn't within context.

I might not like the idea of a certain playable race, which will remain nameless, but I might try it someday and really enjoy the mechanics and style in practice.

Sir ceil · Oct 28, 2013

M C said: ↑

except i never said i was against the Po golem, was just asking what the thing was but i never knew animals like that exists.
would be funny to run into one.
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Raybrandt · Oct 29, 2013

resistentialist said: ↑

I had some issues with timing (a note that starts during an already held note, etc) and getting my score to look like my sheet music, so I wrote my ABC like this.

Code:

Intro stuff (X:/T:/M:/L:/Q:/K:)
[V:1] first line
[V:2] plays at the same time as the first line
[V:1] second line
[V:2] plays at the same time as the second line

Check out this thread:http://community.playstarbound.com/index.php?threads/the-starbound-music-guide.25216/

Examples:

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I'm going to kill myself. Thanks.

Even looks like the timing is gonna get all sorts of fucked up as well, and I'm not sure how well tempo changes will work mid-song.

I just like being able to put all my things in nice little chunks. Mabinogi does it really well.

I'll get an example in a second, probably via Midna's Lament since it's the easiest thing ever to make, but it's going to be awkward.

I GUESS another option I could do would be to turn my MMLs into MIDIs, then convert THOSE into ABCs, but that might cause some serious issues as well. Hmm...

Flameofice · Oct 29, 2013

I'm not too concerned about the Po monsters, since I don't see a deliberate attempt at humor in them. Just a monster that's somewhat fitting for a sewer dungeon.

However, I strongly dislike the brain and eyeball forests. They just look like a try-hard attempt to be strange and alien, and their backgrounds are an eyesore. I strongly hope there's a config file somewhere in the game's code that lets me get rid of them somehow, since the fuel system and quests will likely make them difficult to avoid.

Also, singing sound hideous a large majority of the time.

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