Foreground Blocks?

Discussion in 'Blocks and Crafting' started by ZigZach, Feb 13, 2014.

  1. ZigZach

    ZigZach Void-Bound Voyager

    I'm wondering if the idea of foreground blocks had been requested or considered? I don't mean foreground in the sense of the plane your character is standing, but the plane just in front of that. For example, the ability to place a glass block so that as you move passed it, it appears that there is a pane of glass in between the player and their character. This would allow us to better create the sense of a 3D environment. I'm not sure if I should have posted this on this forum or the mechanics, so I apologize if this is in the wrong spot.
     
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  2. Freariose

    Freariose Void-Bound Voyager

    That's a really interesting concept, and I would love to see it. That is assuming that it's not too much of a hassle for the devs to code.
     
  3. ZigZach

    ZigZach Void-Bound Voyager

    Yeah, that was my thought exactly. It seems like it shouldn't be too difficult, adding a layer with properties equivalent to the background layer's, but I'm not a programmer so I am probably way off. I was building a Millennium Falcon and realized that ability would be very useful for aesthetics. Here's the Millennium Falcon I was working on http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=227488960
     
  4. Reevin

    Reevin Seal Broken

    Depends on the way the game renders stuff. I like the idea but I have no idea how they have it running. Would be useful for hiding traps, doors, chests and such.
     
  5. Fire Woven

    Fire Woven Poptop Tamer

    This could be very cool. At least some foreground furniture (like those shelves of chemicals and such).
     
  6. Dargona1018

    Dargona1018 Existential Complex

    I truly don't think this would work. It's a nice idea, but then it would mess with the controls (probably having to use the mouse wheel [M3] to place them :confused:)
    We are already using both Mouse buttons for placing, so this would be a hassle. Also, I don't think that the Devs are looking for the game to be like this, with 3 different planes you can place in.
     
  7. Ghostsight

    Ghostsight Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    yeah i had posted a few days ago about making faux glass for the sense of making background buildings and the reason i never brought this up is that i assume they would have to change too much of the coding for it but i do love the idea
     
  8. Lecic

    Lecic Hard-To-Destroy Reptile

    I don't really see what the problem with using M3 to place them would be?
     
  9. Dargona1018

    Dargona1018 Existential Complex

    Well, funny enough, I know a couple of people who have a trackball-mouse. They usually use the numbers at the top of the keyboard to change between slots. This would give them a disadvantage, and they might not be able to buy one with a mouse wheel.
     
  10. Lecic

    Lecic Hard-To-Destroy Reptile

    Hmm, I wonder how they could fix that?
    maybe, I don't know, let us edit the hotkeys.
     
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  11. ZigZach

    ZigZach Void-Bound Voyager

    They could use Shift+Alt+M1, that's is pretty natural, and doesn't require you to reposition your hands.
     
  12. Dargona1018

    Dargona1018 Existential Complex

    Well, Shift is already binded as placing one block, so this would be OneBlock + Alt + Place..
     
  13. Ice Wolfcat

    Ice Wolfcat Yeah, You!

    That would be awesome, but I'm not sure what would happen with the entire universe and things (Maybe a wipe?), and how would you mine them? It might be pretty hard to code as well. Nice concept!
     
  14. Dargona1018

    Dargona1018 Existential Complex

    This is a huge point that I have yet to touch upon. Then, to mine it and thus letting you see, you would need to Alt + Mine (M1).
    This would also change the WHOLE system, and possibly game. I mean, like, if you had a feature that works with ALL blocks, it will HAPPEN with ALL blocks, including underground and in dungeons.

    They allow you to put glass in the background to give you a sense of being inside an area, looking out.
     
  15. ZigZach

    ZigZach Void-Bound Voyager

    Just like in the Adobe Creative Suite, Shift does one thing, but the key multiplier Shift+Alt does a different task, it doesn't just modify what Shift does. I personally don't see button mapping as a valid issue when discussing whether this can be implemented or not. Coding on the other hand is a very valid concern. I see the issue with randomly generating blocks and having 2 layers of materials to mine in order to see where you're going when underground. Mining them I don't see as an issue either, if Shift+Alt+M1 places them, Shift+Alt+M2 could be used to mine them. Again, button mapping is not an issue, developers would find at least a somewhat functional default, and with key rebinding players could change it as they like.
     
  16. Dargona1018

    Dargona1018 Existential Complex

    Those controls would be quite annoying and would make most people not even want to use them at all.
    Also, it would be mining with a tool, so you would just Alt + M1. Also, since Shift is already used with all placing and breaking, that would do the same as with other: place one or break one.
     
  17. Teverant

    Teverant Void-Bound Voyager

    I've thought of this too, with some sort of forward paralax effect, but I think it would end up being distracting more than anything else.

    Not that it will ever happen for this version of the game, but a 3D/2.5D sidescrolling world would be a better upgrade to my liking. Though, the game is already choppier than ever in 2D with this recent update, so, maybe that can wait for a completely different game or sequel
     
  18. Ice Wolfcat

    Ice Wolfcat Yeah, You!

    The only problem would be in caves and dungeons, and mining. How would you also mine on a touchpad?
     
  19. Dargona1018

    Dargona1018 Existential Complex

    My exact quarrel with this idea: controls and blocks themselves.
     
  20. Teverant

    Teverant Void-Bound Voyager

    I think it could be really cool in limited use, like having an extra forward paralax layer for the leaves in the various procedural trees, making them pop out a bit better, and coming down with the rest of the tree when you cut it.

    Doors/doorjambs could also benefit from a foreground paralax layer, making it loo more like you're walking through a door.
     

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