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Fighting monsters with BLOCKS?

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by Endeffekt, Dec 8, 2013.

  1. Endeffekt

    Endeffekt Poptop Tamer

    Hi guys... what is your thought on this.
    I can go to any planet with a stack load of blocks and trap any alien that attacks me and then beat it down through the wall?
    so i can start a fresh character on planet 10 and be JUST FINE. O_O

    Do you think they will fix this?
    Maybe blocks placed by a player should be destructible for aliens?

    If this is not fixed or worked on... there is no threat, ever.
    I found a Apex lab with enemies who 1 shot me with guns.. so i get some dirt... and kill each 1 with no threat by using the dirt to make a wall and then hit them through it ^^

    I have decided to not use this exploit anymore.. but when ever i play with some1 else they use this exploit and it ruins the fun for me =/

    why even find new weapons... dirt block = ENDGAME gear
     
  2. RyuujinZERO

    RyuujinZERO Supernova

    It's pretty much an exploit of mechanics, I believe even the devs have weighed in to say they're looking for ways to prevent that kind've strategy and it's certainly a major concern.

    But relax - it's still early beta, the game has been open to the public the whole of 4 days, give them a chance to form a solution ;)
     
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  3. Endeffekt

    Endeffekt Poptop Tamer

    Yeah, the aliens with guns will shoot through the spaces if given the chance :)
     
  4. Lobo

    Lobo Spaceman Spiff

    I have a couple ideas for this :giggle:


    All-around solutions: make it so attacks won't hit an enemy behind a block, OR make their attacks hit you through blocks

    Solutions for humanoid enemies: give them the ability to mine through player placed blocks, or give some of them a tech that allows short-distance teleport

    Solution for later development: add enemies that "swim" through blocks (worm enemies and wraiths in terraria), so you can still use this strategy (or exploit) to fight some enemies, but others would still hit you
     
  5. Dr scoobie

    Dr scoobie Giant Laser Beams

    But if they can tear down blocks then they will be able to destroy your house.
    Make it so enemies can attack through the same amount of blocks that you can
    or make it so you can't attack through blocks.
     
  6. Endeffekt

    Endeffekt Poptop Tamer

    exactly...
     
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  7. AlSkylark

    AlSkylark Master Chief

    By the end you don't have any choice but USE that strategy if you want to survive, given the unbalanced armors.

    But it does make it for a very easy strategy. I guess it's the inconvenience of the block placement system in this game. In Terraria this wasn't a good option because it was so slow, this one is too fast.

    I think, making it so that you can't attack through blocks could work, EXCEPT... You would still be able to open a little hole and slowly kill them with a gun or a bow :T

    Another option could be to have a "building" mode? That you couldn't get in while on fighting mode or something. But it would complicate everything too much :c
     
  8. Zero(pS)

    Zero(pS) Zero Gravity Genie

    I like the second option better.

    Making them attack through blocks doesn't account for you using ranged weapons, and ranged enemies will still be able to be attacked through blocks (because they can't attack you back through those).
     
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  9. Cloudzen

    Cloudzen Poptop Tamer

    I addressed this in another thread, there are so many options they can take to ensure that building mechanic + combat mechanic can easily co-exist, even more so they can support each other.

    Given that this beta is closer to an alpha right now, I have no doubt it will be addressed in time. ;)
     
  10. Endeffekt

    Endeffekt Poptop Tamer

    But where do we report this exploit so that is is seen by the devs?
    All who want this fixed should try contact them D:
     
  11. Cloudzen

    Cloudzen Poptop Tamer

    It's a beta, they are very aware of the state of their game. I wouldn't suggest EVERYONE contact them with this concern.

    If you look at the launcher when the game opens, you'll see how you can support the game by sending bug reports. Remember: You are playing a BETA.
     
  12. Hatsune Scratch

    Hatsune Scratch Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Just make your attacks not able to hit through blocks
    Monsters attacking through blocks could be pretty broken in my opinion
     
  13. Endeffekt

    Endeffekt Poptop Tamer

    This may not be a bug though, it may have been set this way on purpose. Which is why a community rant is in order :p
     
  14. Cloudzen

    Cloudzen Poptop Tamer

  15. Endeffekt

    Endeffekt Poptop Tamer

  16. Cloudzen

    Cloudzen Poptop Tamer

    And that is why forums become cluttered and conversations become broken and unorganized.

    Please use the BETA forum to discuss aspects of the BETA. ;)
     

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