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Feedback thread from Tier 4

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by Royalmail, Dec 10, 2013.

  1. Royalmail

    Royalmail Aquatic Astronaut

    Hi there, I've done some intensive gaming and I've reached Tier 4 in something like 6/7 hours (I could have done it faster but I lost time mining as always). This probably are known issues and problems but I've thought to give my 2 cents to the community.

    1. Obviously we know that the weapon system is bugged for the craftable weapons, but every other weapon you can find are nice up until Tier 2. After that the drops are always around Tier 2 quality (says so also in the description of the weapon) even from Tier 4 drops/chests/rewards, so you're forced to use the broken Steel bow and the craftable weapons to not be annihilated.

    2. I've always weared the best armor available for the tier given my extensive mining and the monster still 2HKOd me, with no real way to tell which planets in the galaxies are more or less difficult and the same applies to monsters. Hopefully the monsters damage will be reduced to make the fights less of an hit and run

    3. The pixel conversion machine has an outrageous fee, 40%. That is more than the death penalty for the moment and it's useful only if you predict on dying multiple times in a row to stop the loss of pixel. With the refinery active, one can simply keep extra ore and refine bars/ores as needed in to pixels, and eliminate the need altogether for the pixel conversion machine.

    4. The 3d printer sometimes eats the item without getting the plan to build it afterwards, sometimes it does. Maybe there's a failure chance that we are not informed of, but hey may as well note that

    5. Minerals are way to many at the moment (and yes I know it's temporary), and I barely needed to change planets to mine enough materials to craft everything I needed from the Tier I was in. In my opinion 70% of the actual quantities would be decent.

    6. Pickaxes are MUCH better than drills, most likely because they are not properly implemented yet,. I've made a drill up to platinum and still takes the same time as the pickaxe to mine, works on less squares at the time (2x2 vs 3x3 of the pickaxe), and still need minerals to be repaired. Also costs thousands of pixels to create. If you're reading this and you're thinking of creating a drill, don't bother for the moment :)

    7. I really like how the mechanic of the flow of the lava works now, really realistic and gooey looking. Kudos!

    8. Please make a series of menus, or divide the items craftable by tiers because at Tier 4 you start having something along the lines of 50/60 craftable items on both the anvil/metalwork station and the crafting table.

    9. Sometimes it's possible to put torches in liquids other than waters, I've forgot to take a screen but I think that should be fine anyway :p

    ... For the moment it's everything, but if I will have something else to write I'll update this post...

    See ya, fellows Starboundeers! ;)
     
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  2. Cyphre

    Cyphre Space Penguin Leader

    9. I know I've been able to do it in the green toxic liquid. Not sure about that dark purple stuff.
     
  3. ForceablePlace

    ForceablePlace Phantasmal Quasar

    The Pixel conversion machine is good as it is, people complain of loosing Pixels, now either Risk loosing 30% every death, or loose 40% once.

    Also, i just started again after the wipe, and have a few questions (For things i have not made it to yet)


    Theres drills? dident even know that lol, are they a thing made after Diamond picks (Suppose to be after Diamond but are broken)

    and after converting X amount of pixels into Volxels, can you spend eh Volxels? or do you convert the voxels BACK into Pixels to pay? (If you do, is there any Pixels lost when converting back into Pixels?)

    -Thanks
     
  4. Royalmail

    Royalmail Aquatic Astronaut

    Drills are created at the start of tier 4, starting simply with 200ish pixels and 20 copper bars, going up in price and quality of bars up to diamond (I've stopped at platinum), and yes they are quite useless at the moment

    When you convert pixels in Volxels (or whatever they are called :p) you get straight value and you can't spend them. If you want your pixels back you need to refine the item and you get 60% of the value in pixels. My point is that one may as well keep the extra ores and refine those for money... at least in my opinion :)
     
  5. Cyphre

    Cyphre Space Penguin Leader

    Using the refinery does seem to yield better savings. It's pretty easy to pick up ore you're not even going to use at the tier you are at.
     
  6. Royalmail

    Royalmail Aquatic Astronaut

    with the current material situation you easily find chunks of 30/40 Iron/Silver/Gold/Titanium (along with Coal and Uranium but you can't refine those) every 2 or 3 screens worth of dirt
     
  7. Royalmail

    Royalmail Aquatic Astronaut

    Also guys, at the moment don't worry about the fuel cause as soon as you find uranium you're set, each one gives you 4 units of fuel and has no other use (so far :p). Personally I have like 600 spare and 800ish fuel units in the ship... just to let you understand how fuel is really not a problem after tier 1
     
  8. donfonni

    donfonni Tentacle Wrangler

    Agreed, I was actually thinking the converter is somewhat overpowered. Over the life of your pixels you probably lose 66% to deaths, as it doesn't take many deaths to get to that figure. Even if it was a 50% fee, it would still always be smart to convert unless you never die or you are en route to a merchant.
     
  9. Slywyn

    Slywyn Existential Complex

    Since you've gotten past this point... when do you unlock silver armor? It used to unlock after you made copper or iron racial armor, but I can't seem to get the darn things to show up. Do you have to beat the UFO now?
     
  10. san117

    san117 Space Hobo

    Yes you need the Metalwork station for silver armor.

    Has anyone figured out how to spawn the 4th boss?
    I'm stuck on titanium armor, which doesn't prevent me from getting 1shotted on Threat4 planets and cannot craft anything better atm, since u need the bossdrop? (Jellythingy) for the Durasteel upgrade.
     
  11. Slywyn

    Slywyn Existential Complex

    Ah, okay. =)

    Guess it's time to go beat up the boss then. Got my racial armor and an iron weapon.
     
  12. ForceablePlace

    ForceablePlace Phantasmal Quasar

    Yeah, I agree with you.
     

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